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re: Urban Meyer dropping knowledge this morning

Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by burreauxxx
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:51 pm to
I agree but I put that on Brennan as much as the coaches. Pressure situations makes or break QBs

Still, the D allowed some first-time-starting redshirt freshman named Connor Phucking Bazelak and some scrub playmakers run up and down the field on them
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:52 pm to
I realize that they are playing with a short roster. It shows. But I have never seen an LSU defense play so poorly. People running free in pass patterns over and over. Linebackers looking frozen., unable to decide what they are to do. Repeatedly giving up the outside on running plays. And no corrections. That is bad coaching. That leads to poor attitudes and less effort by players who don’t believe in the coach. So yes a lot of guys are gone. If they can’t fire the DC demote him. There are bound to be people on the staff who can do better.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 8:55 pm to
Emery was the best player on the field the week before & they wouldn’t get him the ball smh
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5481 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:00 pm to
Huge Emery fan. People crushed me any time I said he should be playing over Curry during the offseason.

While I still think he's physically and mentally immature and hasn't reached his upside yet, I agree he and TDP should be getting most of the snaps. But we also saw the OLine lay down against an average Auburn DLine that had been gashed most of the season prior to playing LSU

The team has a multitude of issues but talent isn't one of them. Effort and focus are. All I heard from the Orgeron people all along was "he may not know Xs and Os but the kids play hard for him". That's simply no longer true
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:05 pm to
Young players don’t know how to respond after being kicked in the mouth

Especially after last year when they rarely if ever were challenged.


Same thing happened at miss St in 2017. You never want to see it, especially twice, but it had proven to be correctable
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:09 pm to
Urbam meyer

Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:10 pm to
Ika, Logan, Anthony, Farrell, Cox, Clark, Harris, Stingley, Stevens etc aren't really young though

I wouldn't even consider Hampton and Flott "young" since they had the benefit of 15 games at a high level last year, even though they didn't play as much as others. Quality players are ready after 15 games going into their sophomore season IMO. Think back at every good LSU player, most of them showed it their 2nd years onward

Ojulari is really the only true freshman playing a ton on defense and he's balling out.

I just don't see it the way you do
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Ojulari is really the only true freshman playing a ton on defense and he's balling out.


Ricks too

Still, there are a lot of sophomores &/or 1st year starters. Which is fine when you mix them with older, more experienced players.

Bodies on the DL is an issue because of opt outs.

Vincent’s loss was huge as that flex DB.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:27 pm to
Ricks, yes. I don't think of our Corners as an issue

it's the old 2-gap linemen not being able to execute in the 4-3 to control the Run and contain, and then the LBs are horrendous at everything from fitting the run, keying and diagnosing, playing instinctively and fast rather than reactive with bad eyes and discipline. Safetys are the same. It's inexcusable

I don't think Vincent was a huge loss. It would be nice to have him rather than having to run the Nichols kid out there (waste of a scholarship for a bad 1-yr player similar to Terrance Alexander) against State. But CB and Nickel are the least of our worries right now. It's the middle of the defense which can't stop the Run, can't cover and can't tackle
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:45 pm to
You're telling me Vincent vs Flott isn't a huge difference
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5481 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 9:50 pm to
I have never been a Flott pumper and always felt he was an average player. But Vincent wasn't a great player either

Like I said, the outside of the secondary is not our issue

Speaking of tackling, I'd like to see Jay Ward move to Safety. He's the best tackler in space that we have back there
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Young players don’t know how to respond after being kicked in the mouth



You can mitigate youth with quality leadership in the coaching staff. The offense has taken a step back but they haven’t looked lost. They look like they know what to do even if they can’t actually do it at times. That’s the coaching staff and Brennan and Marshall at work.

On the defensive side they have no fricking idea what they’re doing. They’re confused every single play. We have corners following tight ends and slots across the formation for fricks sake. They guys are confused and have no idea what they’re doing.

That’s Pelini at work.
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2287 posts
Posted on 11/14/20 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

1) losing the most players to the nfl in an offseason in the history of history

2) replacing both coordinators, as well as players mentioned above, in a shortened, unprecedented pandemic season.

3)lack of a talented, mobile QB


This can be the excuses to not be a championship team this year. It is not an excuse to lose to fricking mizzou and a God awful state team.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 12:37 am to
Pelini's base defense was always zone, which makes playing man against a Leach offense of all teams even more inexplicable. The defense was just gassed in all three of the losses, you can't play 4-3 man like that these days
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 7:53 am to
We don't have the personnel on the D-line or at LB to run a 4-3 defense right now. That's the main issue i see. Couple that with the lack of time in the off-season to properly install the new system and it's easy to see why things are bad on that side of the ball.
Posted by Ethan Martin
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
1750 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:08 am to
Funny, UGA, FLA, and Bama seen to lose alot of players every year to the NFL, bottom line is if LSU doesn't start giving more effort this coaching staff will be 100% done
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2318 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:18 am to
It’s not like another SEC coach would want to see discord in another SEC ? The problem is simple and only has to do with mistrust between db s and possibly lb s in so far as the scheme is concerned. This team is otherwise very together under the circumstances it finds itself. There is no problem in my opinion between players and players and players and coaches. Like others have said there simply was not enough off-season to have enough reps to figure out coverage on defense and possibly run block schemes on offense. Don’t listen to sec coaches about other sec teams.
Posted by KTiger85
Member since Oct 2018
917 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 8:18 am to
Yep. In my many years of following and coaching football, my team's QB play is the primary reason my defense couldn't set the corner, couldn't tackle, nor communicate with each other. Lol.

Sometimes you should post less.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:04 am to
frick Meyer !
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288368 posts
Posted on 11/15/20 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Yep. In my many years of following and coaching football, my team's QB play is the primary reason my defense couldn't set the corner, couldn't tackle, nor communicate with each other. Lol.



In my many years watching football, I've never seen a good offenses lose to crap teams when they are +7 in Turnover margin with multiple defensive touchdowns.

No matter how many points the defense gives up.
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