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Updated 4-year recruiting rankings for all 130 teams, where the SEC completely dominates
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:41 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:41 am
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1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State
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Here’s the new approach, based on what appears to be the most statistically predictive:
Whereas I previously used a blend of both 247Sports Composite and Rivals ratings for each year, I am now using only the Composite.
I use a blend of point totals (how the recruiting services determine their class rankings) and per-recruit averages, since teams signing 32 guys in one year don’t automatically end up getting a long-term advantage over teams signing 23. Point totals make up about 78 percent of the formula, and per-recruit averages made up about 22 percent.
Using previous years of data as the testing ground, I found the projections work best when they are weighted as follows: this year’s recruiting class accounts for about 67 percent of the projection, last year’s accounts for 15 percent, the class from two years ago accounts for 15 percent, and the class from three years out accounts for about 3 percent. So I guess we call it a weighted four-year average now.
1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. LSU
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 11:42 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:43 am to tduecen
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3. LSU
But muh rebuild.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:45 am to DesenselessPlayer
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But muh rebuild.
yup. that narrative is dead.
playoffs or bust 2019
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:46 am to tduecen
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1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. LSU
Checks out
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:47 am to DesenselessPlayer
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But muh rebuild the trenches.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:48 am to jmon
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But muh rebuild the trenches.
A swing and a miss. Just like Orgeron recruiting linemen.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:51 am to tduecen
All teams in top 5 have been in playoffs except one. Obviously talent isn’t the issue then. Must be coaching
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:52 am to DesenselessPlayer
This says more about looking at rankings as an absolute. Ranking says nothing about meeting team needs. Even on todays front page you see people talking about the skill players we signed in this class not living up to potential unless we shore up the offensive line. Rankings also don't take into account the players that leave the program. We had several highly ranked receivers transfer out just a couple of years ago. In O's first year we had several offensive linemen transfer or leave early. Ranking are a good metric but you need a good balance also.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:53 am to 225Tyga
It doesn’t check out! Look up the National Champion rankings! So it takes players and coaches!! Clemson isn’t in the 5 and beat Alabama!
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:53 am to DesenselessPlayer
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But muh rebuild.
may want to check out his formula and read what was posted
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I found the projections work best when they are weighted as follows: this year’s recruiting class accounts for about 67 percent of the projection, last year’s accounts for 15 percent, the class from two years ago accounts for 15 percent, and the class from three years out accounts for about 3 percent. So I guess we call it a weighted four-year average now.
Les' last class only accounted for 3% in the formula used. Orgeron's first class after Les was fired only accounted for 15%.
This guy also doesn't say anything about whether he's accounting for players that aren't still with the teams that recruited them out of high school. Based on what the OP says, it appears as if he's just taking the composite scores straight from 247 and Rivals, year by year. So if this year's #3 class on Rivals and #5 on 247 counts for 67%, then your response doesn't really mean a whole lot.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:53 am to Jack Daniel
And all 4 of those have had really good QB play and good O line play
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:55 am to tduecen
Recruiting rankings on that day are great. Afterwards retention matters even more.
Shea Dixon
Verified account @Sheadixon
24/7's Shea Dixon on LSU's 2014-2016 classes
2014 class lost a 5-star in Clifton Garrett and five 4-stars. Was it still the 2nd best class in the nation?
2015 class lost two 5-stars - Tyron Johnso and Maea Teuhema and four 4-stars. Was it still the 5th best class in the nation?
Shea Dixon
Verified account @Sheadixon
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Shea Dixon Retweeted Shea Dixon
In this story, numbers on each recruiting class. One that stings? The 2015 class, where 39% of the signees have already transferred or been dismissed.
From the 2014-2016 classes, only 32 signees (44%) remain on the team right now.
24/7's Shea Dixon on LSU's 2014-2016 classes
2014 class lost a 5-star in Clifton Garrett and five 4-stars. Was it still the 2nd best class in the nation?
2015 class lost two 5-stars - Tyron Johnso and Maea Teuhema and four 4-stars. Was it still the 5th best class in the nation?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:55 am to tduecen
Winning % in those 4 years
Alabama = 93%
UGA = 76%
LSU = 70%
Oklahoma = 85%
Ohio St = 89%
So LSU has done less than any of the other top 5 in winning percentage..
Alabama = 93%
UGA = 76%
LSU = 70%
Oklahoma = 85%
Ohio St = 89%
So LSU has done less than any of the other top 5 in winning percentage..

This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:55 am to DesenselessPlayer
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But muh rebuild
Playing in & winning a NY6 bowl & finishing 6th in the nation has been quite a rebuild from where Miles left the program. But I don’t see anyone implying that this program is being rebuilt
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:56 am to DesenselessPlayer
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But muh rebuild.
Wait. It looks like 2/3 of this score is based on this year’s class, and another 20% on last year’s class, right? So does that just confirm that the rebuild is happening?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 11:59 am to Tigerloo
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Wait. It looks like 2/3 of this score is based on this year’s class, and another 20% on last year’s class, right? So does that just confirm that the rebuild is happening?
It confirms that it can no longer be used as an excuse. Orgeron has had enough time to “rebuild” and this verifies it. If we are “weak” in one position, (I.e. defensive line or Offensive line) it is now 100% on Orgeron. No more excuses.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:00 pm to DesenselessPlayer
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It confirms that it can no longer be used as an excuse.
Most of these "excuses" are in your imagination.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:01 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:IMHO Teuhema was the one transfer that really hurt us. Significantly. That would have changed the development of the OL quite a bit.
2015 class lost two 5-stars - Tyron Johnso and Maea Teuhema and four 4-stars. Was it still the 5th best class in the nation?
ETA: what sucks is even if he hadn't have transferred we would've been without. Destiny and shite I guess.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most of these "excuses" are in your imagination.
And in the heads of the ones who used them.
Edit to add
Oh look! Ree changed accounts!
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 2/7/19 at 12:02 pm to DesenselessPlayer
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It confirms that it can no longer be used as an excuse.
Your post insinuated that this calculation confirmed there was never a rebuild. If the formula dictates that only 3% of the calculation involved Les' last signing class, then your comment makes no sense. This rating system doesn't prove or disprove anything in regards to whether there was a rebuild when Orgeron was hired. Nothing was "confirmed" one way or the other.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 12:04 pm
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