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re: Unless J.J. gets hurt he will be the starting Q.B.

Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:34 am to
Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:34 am to
you've got an excellent point, jholmes...i was messin around earlier and i kind of ticked off Hot Carl and King Joey....i think both QBs have amazing upside and i should not be too hard on Lee for being thrown to the wolves.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:36 am to
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I just hope that if Lee wins the starting job (which is a possibility despite the thread's title) that LSU fans will support him. Based on the majority of posts on this board, I don't see that happening.
You have to remember that the Rant itself is only a tiny sampling of the LSU fan population, and that it attracts a disproportionate amount of the most irrational and most vocal (which sadly seem to almost always be one and the same, in all walks of life). While there would quite likely be a smattering of boos if Lee takes the field in the first game, it won't be significant. Especially considering the game is at Seattle, most LSU fans in attendance will be there supporting the team regardless of who's under center (at least at first; if the starter screws up, then it might be trouble). And should Lee manage to win the starting job and do well at Washington, the fans will probably be okay at the home opener.

Posted by jholme9
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2004
413 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:36 am to
Sure, practice and games are completely different. But last year, Lee had zero game experience. This year he obviously has some. He did look scared, and he should have looked scared as he was grossly unprepared to be starting for a major program. Hopefully, when he sees playing time this year, he will be able to learn from his prior mistakes.

Again, I'm not arguing that JL should or will be the starter. I'm personally rooting for JJ. I'm just trying to make the point that JL CAN win the starting QB job despite his poor play last year.
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:38 am to
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tigersnsaints


When you come to the Rant you better have some clean drawers on and be read to
Posted by jholme9
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2004
413 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:40 am to
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You have to remember that the Rant itself is only a tiny sampling of the LSU fan population, and that it attracts a disproportionate amount of the most irrational and most vocal (which sadly seem to almost always be one and the same, in all walks of life).


While I agree that the Rant contains only a small sample of LSU fans, in my experience, it is a representative sample. Most LSU fans I talk to in person (and I'm in the NO area) share very similar views to the majority on the Rant. Maybe it's only representative of my area.

I hope you're right.
Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:44 am to
King Joey, i wish the rant would attract more rational and cooler Tiger fans like yourself. I bet you would be a lot of fun to hang out with or watch a game with. We could talk about how most LSU fans are irrational and not near as rational as you. Notice how many times a typed the word rational in this rant?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:46 am to
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That is the funniest thing I've heard in a LONG time. The idea of one of y'all suggesting that someone ELSE is the one with a "hard on" for a sophomore QB is hilarious. Y'all are the ones insisting that it is absolutely impossible for a 2 1/2 game performance that only produced two good halves (1st half vs. Arky and GT) to mean anything other than he will be a starter the next fall. Not that he's "more likely", or "in the lead", but ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO FAIL. The opening post emphasized the claim that it is a FACT. That is to say IT CANNOT BE POSSIBLE that anything change from December to September.

THAT is what the rational, sane people are pointing out as absurd. If anyone was suggesting that there is little chance, or less chance for Lee to win the starting spot, then there would be no argument. But no. The absolutely stupid morons populating this board are so obsessed with resentment for Lee (according to Doc, apparently motivated by racism) that they have to insist that it CANNOT BE POSSIBLE. And that is absolutely stupid.



I never said it was absolutely impossible. JJ would have to go down in the Spring imo. Otherwise, he will absolutely be the starter in September. If you're so blind you can't see that he brings a little bit more to the table than JL does then that's your problem. People keep harping on JL being a freshman last year but at least he was in the system for a whole year. JJ came in a did what he did after only being in it for a few months.
Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:48 am to
AMEN..Mighty Yat..AMEN...totally agree
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:50 am to
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MightyYat


good post.

some fans like tojo will remain willfully ignorant.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61976 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:51 am to
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I never said it was absolutely impossible. JJ would have to go down in the Spring imo. Otherwise, he will absolutely be the starter in September.



What if he gets fat? What if he skips practice? What if he falls asleep in meetings? What if he completes 0% of his passes in the spring? Now, I certainly don't think he'll do any of those things, but the point is that he is still going to have to perform right now and in the future. What he did in November and December was nice, but it's not going to win us games THIS season.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9961 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:53 am to
Congratulations on your firm grip on the obvious.
Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:55 am to
to all these ranters that hate on Jefferson, ya'll act like Jefferson did not outerform Lee last season when givin the chance...i'm not a Lee-hater..i just think that Jefferson has a better chance of being special...but i know we have to have a clean slate and act like Jefferson's and Lee's experiences last season did not happen or exist...mention the pick-6s and it's sac-religious
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:55 am to
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Hot Carl


quote:

What if he gets fat?

What if he skips practice?

What if he falls asleep in meetings?

What if he completes 0% of his passes in the spring?


seriously? we're going to play the what if game?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:57 am to
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What if he gets fat? What if he skips practice? What if he falls asleep in meetings? What if he completes 0% of his passes in the spring? Now, I certainly don't think he'll do any of those things, but the point is that he is still going to have to perform right now and in the future. What he did in November and December was nice, but it's not going to win us games THIS season.


He came in with 15lbs of added muscle this year, he already had seniors saying what a commander he was in the huddle last year, 0% is just a retarded thing to even say and no shite he has to perform this year. The argument is over who should start. Based on November and December JJ deserves to start in September... end of story. What happens after that remains to be seen.
Posted by tigersnsaints
Kenner, LA
Member since Mar 2009
637 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 11:01 am to
Hot Carl, that was a pretty weak argument...i know, while Lee is the workout warrior, Jefferson is probably slacking..right?... you only wish...maybe when Lee transfers, you can go root for him at McNeese
Posted by TigersRuleTheEarth
Laffy
Member since Jan 2007
28643 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 11:02 am to
I'd pay money just so we could go one day without seeing a JL/JJ thread on the Rant.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61976 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 11:05 am to
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tigersnsaints



Since you can't read, you are too fricking stupid to post here. Please do not continue to post. Thanks.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33237 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 11:08 am to
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Based on November and December

Haven't you heard? What happens in November and December, stays in November and December
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 11:10 am to
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I never said it was absolutely impossible.
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Otherwise, he will absolutely be the starter in September.
Yeah, you just did. You said Jefferson will absolutely be the starter if he doesn't get hurt. That is just absurd. If you honestly believe there is no chance whatsoever that Jarrett Lee could become a better quarterback than Jordan Jefferson between December 31st and September, then you really need to rethink your thinking process. Guys get better and worse all the time, and occassionally those changes can be dramatic. There is at least some chance that Jarrett Lee could improve so much that he actually becomes the better QB by September. I don't think it is likely, but what kind of thought process would lead someone to conclude that it is impossible?

Posted by lsubeast
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2003
474 posts
Posted on 3/24/09 at 11:11 am to
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What if he gets fat? What if he skips practice? What if he falls asleep in meetings? What if he completes 0% of his passes in the spring? Now, I certainly don't think he'll do any of those things, but the point is that he is still going to have to perform right now and in the future. What he did in November and December was nice, but it's not going to win us games THIS season.



Dumbest post of the day. Somebody get this man a trophy!
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