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re: Unglesby to ask Les to lift JJ's suspension (with link)
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:26 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:26 pm to Antonio Moss
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malicious prosecution
Police chief is a jarett lee fan?
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:28 pm to just me
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Which vertebrae are usually the problem with the chronic pain patents?
And which type of fracture. All important information.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:30 pm to TheDoc
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Police chief is a jarett lee fan?
Doubtful.
Personally, I don't think there was anything malicious about. I just think they're incompetent.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:31 pm to Antonio Moss
Well as far as emergency medicine goes u really only worry about posterior fractures or cauda equina syndrome, ant fractures are more of a pain management issue
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:32 pm to Antonio Moss
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I just think they're incompetent
What specifically about their investigation or the individuals involved lead you to believe they are incompetent? It's just people covering their own arse. I have a problem with society in general finding it so easy to potentially take away a mans freedoms over something like this, but the police are just playing CYA.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:33 pm to Antonio Moss
multiple possibilities for vertebral fractures with wide variety of severity. My son had a vert fx as a 6th grader and finished out his last 4 fb games. It could be something as simple as pedicle fxs which are minimal or could be something way more severe. Of course when secondary gain comes into play, even the most minor injuries can be made out to be life threatening.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What specifically about their investigation or the individuals involved lead you to believe they are incompetent?
1) Failing to interview potential witnesses during week long investigation.
2) Refusing evidence which is allege to contradict statements given in the initial report.
2) Taking DNA samples that are of almost no value.
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It's just people covering their own arse. I have a problem with society in general finding it so easy to potentially take away a mans freedoms over something like this, but the police are just playing CYA.
It's the exact opposite. They weren't covering their arse. They were playing the investigation up to the media.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:45 pm to Antonio Moss
1) Failing to interview potential witnesses during week long investigation.
2) Refusing evidence which is allegedly to contradict statements given in the initial report.
2) Taking DNA samples that are of almost no value.
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It's just people covering their own arse. I have a problem with society in general finding it so easy to potentially take away a mans freedoms over something like this, but the police are just playing CYA.
The average police detective in BR wants nothing more than to be police chief in some town someday. There is probably going to be a PR component to it.
They probably did too little to start and tried to make up for it with a blanket of evidence. As it became a larger media circus, the investigation ramped up. I don't necessarily blame them.
2) Refusing evidence which is allegedly to contradict statements given in the initial report.
2) Taking DNA samples that are of almost no value.
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It's just people covering their own arse. I have a problem with society in general finding it so easy to potentially take away a mans freedoms over something like this, but the police are just playing CYA.
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It's the exact opposite. They weren't covering their arse. They were playing the investigation up to the media.
The average police detective in BR wants nothing more than to be police chief in some town someday. There is probably going to be a PR component to it.
They probably did too little to start and tried to make up for it with a blanket of evidence. As it became a larger media circus, the investigation ramped up. I don't necessarily blame them.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:46 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:According to the witnesses. No proof one way or another.
1) Failing to interview potential witnesses during week long investigation.
quote:Not sure who made this accusation? No proof one way or another.
2) Refusing evidence which is allege to contradict statements given in the initial report.
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2) Taking DNA samples that are of almost no value.
Good job on two #2s. Again, no proof one way or another.
So, you are making claims with no evidence. Yet, you are condemning the police who have filed charged with more evidence than that. Genius.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Like I said in an earlier post, as the investigating body you either arrest as soon as probable cause is established (which would have been Friday morning) or you investigate the matter fully before arresting anyone.
The BRPD did neither.
The BRPD did neither.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:50 pm to Antonio Moss
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Like I said in an earlier post, as the investigating body you either arrest as soon as probably cause is established (which would have been Friday morning) or you investigate the matter fully before arresting anyone.
The BRPD did neither.
Based on what we know of the case, it appears that
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you investigate the matter fully before arresting anyone.
was the method used.
Can you provide evidence to the contrary?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:53 pm to hashtag
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According to the witnesses. No proof one way or another.
So you think the employees were actually interviewed and are just lying?
That's incredibly naive.
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Not sure who made this accusation? No proof one way or another.
They refused to take the video from Shady's that Fisher tried to give them last Tuesday.
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Good job on two #2s. Again, no proof one way or another.
DNA evidence is used to place people at location. There is no dispute that Jefferson was in the parking lot at Shady's. If there were DNA evidence on his shoes, it could have gotten there several ways.
This doesn't even begin to discuss the ridiculousness of swabbing for his DNA.
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So, you are making claims with no evidence.
You keep saying this but it makes zero sense.
There is an abundance of evidence for all three of these points. Your ignoring of people's testimonials doesn't equal a lack of evidence.
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Yet, you are condemning the police who have filed charged with more evidence than that. Genius.
You really don't understand how this whole process works.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:54 pm to Geaux2002
I completely agree, and also, a TRUE leader probably wouldn't have even been out this close to season and even if they were, a true leader would have seen a rough situation such as this and would have known when to just walk away. I know everyone makes mistakes and whatever but with so much riding on the shoulders of these guys it just sucks. You cannot be just a great athlete to be the best, you need to be both a great athlete AND a responsible leader.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:55 pm to hashtag
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Can you provide evidence to the contrary?
Yes.
The BRPD refused to interview the employees who witnessed the fight despite their accounts being reported by the AP.
The BRPD refused to accept a videotape that allegedly contradicts statements made by the accuser in the initial report.
That is failing to investigate fully.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:55 pm to Antonio Moss
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Your ignoring of people's testimonials doesn't equal a lack of evidence.
Yet, that is exactly what you are doing. If people's testimonies are true, there is zero reason for defending Jefferson for anything. Yet, you don't believe the "evidence" from witness testimonies. Just the "evidence" from the testimonies that you want to believe. It makes you sound like a kook.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:57 pm to Antonio Moss
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The BRPD refused to interview the employees who witnessed the fight despite their accounts being reported by the AP.
According to those employees.
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The BRPD refused to accept a videotape that allegedly contradicts statements made by the accuser in the initial report.
According to a lawyer.
Again, the evidence you are using as fact is word of mouth. Just like the evidence that you are dismissing as fact. Be consistent. If you can't trust the police and the witnesses that they have, why can you trust employees of Shady's and a lawyer?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:58 pm to TigerKnights
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I didn't realize you could now sue the police for arresting you when they have evidence and probable cause if they turn out to be wrong or you get off. We must inform every criminal who has ever walked ever. That should bankrupt the police and then we can all do whatever the hell we want.
When you consider all the talking the BRPD did in the media, there could be clear defamation of character liabilities.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:59 pm to TigaB8a
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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1) Failing to interview potential witnesses during week long investigation.
2) Refusing evidence which is allege to contradict statements given in the initial report.
2) Taking DNA samples that are of almost no value.
Assuming of course that any of that is true.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:02 pm to LSUcjTIGER
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a TRUE leader probably wouldn't have even been out this close to season
good first post
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