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Understanding the New College Basketball Rules About NBA Draft

Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:28 am
I have read a lot about people misunderstanding the new rule in college basketball surrounding players declaring for the draft.

Rule Change Highlights:

(1) College basketball players can hire an agent so long as the player requests an evaluation from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee (which consists of NBA team executives who provide candid advice to college players on their draft prospects)

(2) Assuming the NBA and National Basketball Players’ Association (NBPA) consent to the following arrangement, high school basketball players who have been identified as an “elite senior prospect” by USA basketball can also be represented by an agent beginning July 1 before their senior year in high school

(3) Agents must be certified by the NCAA in order to work with high school and college athletes (however, until Aug. 1, 2020, NBPA-certified agents will be automatically considered NCAA certified and family members or those who act solely on behalf of a pro team aren’t required to be certified at all).

(4) Agents will be permitted to pay for meals and transportation for players and their families during the agent selection process and for meetings with pro teams, if changes are made to existing agent acts and state laws.

(5) Players can also now return to school after going undrafted without losing eligibility.

(6) Because of these changes, it will remain a bit unclear who will return to school for 2019-2020 until late May.



NCAA Division I Official Rules (For Reference)

12.2.4.1: Inquiry: An individual may inquire of a pro sports organization about eligibility for a pro league player draft or request information about the individual's market value without affecting his amateur status.

12.2.4.2.1.1 Men's Basketball: A student-athlete may enter the NBA draft each year during his collegiate career without losing his eligibility.

a) The student-athlete requests that his name be removed from the draft list and declares his intent to resume intercollegiate participation not later than 10 days after the conclusion of the NBA draft combine.
b) The student-athlete's declaration of intent is submitted in writing to the institution's AD
c) The student-athlete is not drafted
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:31 am to
I don't know if I'm reading it correctly, or if it really even addresses what I'm looking for. But is the rule about asking for an eval once through your career no longer in play? Meaning that conceivably Tremont Waters could come back?
Posted by DesertCajun
New Mexico
Member since Mar 2007
634 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:34 am to
Thanks for posting!
Posted by cra_cra
Member since Nov 2016
1743 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:37 am to
It’s all fine to me but this just opens the floodgates for every player to “declare for the nba”.

They should still not allow any of this until after their sophomore season.
Posted by Baseball Tiger 17
Member since Jun 2017
727 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Meaning that conceivably Tremont Waters could come back?


Normally yes. But there is a rule in place that says you have to fill out a certain form to get the eval by a certain date and Naz and Waters did not turn that in.

Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Normally yes. But there is a rule in place that says you have to fill out a certain form to get the eval by a certain date and Naz and Waters did not turn that in.


Good deal, thank you.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:42 am to
quote:

They should still not allow any of this until after their sophomore season.


They should do baseball's rule you can go pro out of HS but if you do go to college you have to stay until a certain age.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7555 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:49 am to
LINK Espn link

233 early entry prospects. 175 from college ranks, the rest are international prospects.

Looking at the article, the number of early declarers has more than tripled since 2015.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:50 am
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

high school basketball players who have been identified as an “elite senior prospect” by USA basketball can also be represented by an agent beginning July 1 before their senior year in high school



Is this a rule in case they allow players to get drafted out of high school? or is there a more immediate need for this rule?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42367 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:13 pm to
So the draft is not until late June
How are college teams supposed to fill their rosters when the signing period is open now but you might need those spots for players who come back.
For those that come back, what if their team doesn't have room at that point?
They can't transfer automatically.
Posted by GeauxSox24
Member since Mar 2019
68 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

(5) Players can also now return to school after going undrafted without losing eligibility.


I thought they had till the end of May to withdraw and come back to school? The nba draft is in June.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12253 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:27 pm to
This is the main point...


Agents must be certified by the NCAA in order to work with high school and college athletes (however, until Aug. 1, 2020, NBPA-certified agents will be automatically considered NCAA certified and family members or those who act solely on behalf of a pro team aren’t required to be certified at all)

That means that until next season, agents only have to be certified by the NBPA (NBA Players' Association) and not the NCAA. So players can take advantage of this and work with a larger pool of agents.

I think this is why so many LSU players declared, so they can get a little exposure, cash, and evaluations before returning to school next season.

They don't have to return before the draft either, they can wait and see if they get drafted first.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28245 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Normally yes. But there is a rule in place that says you have to fill out a certain form to get the eval by a certain date and Naz and Waters did not turn that in.


That's according to Tony Benford in a 4.13.19 Advocate report. But in the same report you have someone from the AD saying

quote:

Jakoubek confirmed Friday seven LSU players had taken that first step, for which the deadline was Thursday night, but declined to identify them.


The "first step" mentioned is requesting the Undergrad eval. If there are seven guys who have requested one, then Waters and Reid seemingly have to be in that group, right?

Smart
Mays
E. Williams
Taylor

That's 4

Days already said he was coming back, but I guess he could have requested an eval.

However, that still leaves 2 spots

Are we to assume 2 of Graves, Hyatt, Cooper requested an eval as well? If so, the NBA is going to be flooded with essentially useless request from guys who haven't even played significant minutes in college basketball.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26654 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:32 pm to
Wouldn't it be 1, rather than 2, to equal the 7 mentioned?

Smart
Mays
E. Williams
Taylor
Waters
Reid

The 7th could be a signee.
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
1992 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 10:46 pm to
Would be awesome if I could read if he come back
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