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re: Two USA Today writers pick LSU to win the SEC West because of their production on offense
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:01 am to schwartzy
Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:01 am to schwartzy
Saban is on that Bobby Bowden downward trajectory. Too prideful to call it quits and will likely be ushered out.
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:10 am to TrueTigerTale
I know it’s hard to be objective, but this is the least impressive Bama roster in about 15 years, not sure why someone would pick them on paper.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:14 pm to TheWalrus
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I know it’s hard to be objective, but this is the least impressive Bama roster in about 15 years, not sure why someone would pick them on paper.
Bama will struggle more this year than any other, but Saban often still finds ways to win. He could have loss four or four be games last year. That’s why the big turnover coaching.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:20 pm to paulb52
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Not a wise choice as Alabama hosts LSU this year.
LSU has 17 wins on the road against Bama compared to 10 wins at home.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 12:36 pm to WaterLink
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quote: Not a wise choice as Alabama hosts LSU this year. LSU has 17 wins on the road against Bama compared to 10 wins at home.
These LSU players in 2023 are developing the Joe Burrow trait, they will love taking it to teams on the road.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 2:15 pm to White Tiger
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Predictions are like arseholes. Everybody has one.
Predictions are more like vaginas, some are more impressive than others.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 3:49 pm to TrueTigerTale
Unlike some on here I worry about playing like we did in our losses and the squeaker against Arkansas. If our D and special teams are improved then I can see us winning the west.
Bama does have issues going into fall. But they have loaded up on talent. I remember us starting a butt load of freshman and RSF and having successful seasons. Remember they have the backstabbing tricky little Nicky. He didn’t just fall off a turnip truck.
Faggies and Arkansas won’t be slouches. Surprise team IMHO is Arkansas.
Bama does have issues going into fall. But they have loaded up on talent. I remember us starting a butt load of freshman and RSF and having successful seasons. Remember they have the backstabbing tricky little Nicky. He didn’t just fall off a turnip truck.
Faggies and Arkansas won’t be slouches. Surprise team IMHO is Arkansas.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:25 pm to Menatiger
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Two USA Today writers pick LSU to win the SEC West
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 11:41 pm to King Joey
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John Adams
Fun fact about John Adams: he wrote for one of the Baton Rouge newspapers in the 80's (can't remember if it was Morning Advocate or State Times). Left to go work in Knoxville and has-been there ever since.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 5:33 am to Alt26
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For YEARS LSU's talent was equal, or, at wort, barely interior to Alabama's. Yet, the HC (both Miles and Orgeron) were vastly inferior to Saban.
This is simply false. LSU had lots of talent under Miles, but there were very few years between 20011 to 2017, in which Alabama did not have a clear advantage at QB, the most important position on the field; an advantage at defensive line; and a giant advantage at offensive line.
Set against that, LSU usually had an advantage at defensive back. Alabama had the more talented teams. To your point, they were also better coached, not in the fundamentals but in the offensive coordination.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 5:59 am to LSUDad
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While in that casino, did you drop a little cash on that one?
I would not bet that Bama won’t lose three (including the bowls). Saban, and Bama, are declining. They had a generational talent at QB last season and he kept them in a lot of games. He is gone, and there is no one with that kind of ability on the team.
Also, a three loss season is coming for Bama soon. Saban is fading away. This isn’t a prediction. It’s a frank assessment of the clear drop off in Bama football when comparing 2009-2015 to 2016-2022. During that first era the few teams that beat Bama did it with last second heroics, and Bama won 4 championships in seven years. During the second era some teams are just lining up and whipping them, and Bama won two championships in seven years.
Two in seven years sounds great, but the first was in 2017 and the second was the 2020 covid year in which two thirds of the nation really didn’t play at all. Do you remember those years when Bama had no weaknesses? Those years are gone. Look at the last TD play of LSU’s victory over them last season. LSU wins every matchup on the right side of the field. I don’t remember seeing that a decade ago.
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:58 pm to Penrod
I don’t believe Saban is built for NIL. He is going to have to re-recruit players on the team and deal with new ones that come in with money deals and obligations other than football.
I think it’s gonna drive him into retirement.
I think it’s gonna drive him into retirement.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 2:19 am to rltiger
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I think it’s gonna drive him into retirement.
How many changes to college football now have been going to "drive Saban into retirement"? Yeah, eventually he's going to retire. But I think I'm past the "he won't be able to handle [insert new college football thing here]" notion. I'm pretty well convinced he can handle any change that comes to college football as well as or better than anyone else out there, as long as he chooses to. Someday, he's just not going be up for reinventing his game yet again and will throw in the towel. The question is whether he will have the wisdom and self-awareness to retire when he hits that point rather than drag on at a sub-par level (for him, which will probably still be like 9-3 with a NYD bowl bid).
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:14 am to King Joey
Saban will adapt, but at some point the extra obstacles could lessen his drive. Happens to every coach.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:03 am to Alt26
As to talent. I disagree. 2007 thru 2012. LSU talent equal to Bama. 2013 to 2018 our line of scrimmage talent was well below Bama. Skill positions we were equal.
After Mettenberg and until Burrow our QB play was below average. 2008 thru 2010 would have won another national championship had we had an above average QB. Perilou flame out and inability to recruit wasted three great LSU teams
2020/21 our QB talent way below Bama. And line of scrimmage talent and depth far below Bama.
Kelly has LSU talent level back to equal or better. Depth compared to Bama and Georgia is probably a little bit behind.
Kelly has also built the LSU QB room to equivalent to Bama and Georgia.
Kelly and Denbrock offensive theory regarding use of the tight end and recruiting has caught LSU up to Georgia in that space as well
We trail Georgia and Bama only at running back…
After Mettenberg and until Burrow our QB play was below average. 2008 thru 2010 would have won another national championship had we had an above average QB. Perilou flame out and inability to recruit wasted three great LSU teams
2020/21 our QB talent way below Bama. And line of scrimmage talent and depth far below Bama.
Kelly has LSU talent level back to equal or better. Depth compared to Bama and Georgia is probably a little bit behind.
Kelly has also built the LSU QB room to equivalent to Bama and Georgia.
Kelly and Denbrock offensive theory regarding use of the tight end and recruiting has caught LSU up to Georgia in that space as well
We trail Georgia and Bama only at running back…
Posted on 7/31/23 at 5:25 am to JOJO Hammer
quote:It's also that the teams Bama is facing have not only gotten better in recruiting, but better in coaching.
Kind of crazy that Bama (or any team) can be 2 plays away from going undefeated while at the same time being 2 plays away from 4 losses.
One think to add is I think the fear many teams had of Bama is fading away.
Bama doesn't have a QB savior like Bryce Young. They don't have an elite QB with 4 horseman of the apocalypse at WR either. They also don't have that returning dominant RB like Derrick Henry or Najee Harris. They don't have these dominant players and leaders at key positions coming back for their senior year when they could have been a first round pick the previous year. All those almost exclusive to Bama type things that happened on a yearly basis over the past 5-6 years, are just not there this year.
The media now has absolutely nothing physical and concrete to stand on to give a legit reason why Bama should be ahead of LSU this year other than, Bama is Bama and Saban is Saban. I follow tons of college football news and this is the Alabama breakdown. People really believe Bama will be able to go back to mid QB, ground and pound run game, and #1 in the country defense and win all their games again. This is not that era. Ole Miss during that era with Freeze did not let that ish fly. When TAMU had an offense and good QB, neither did they. LSU almost always played them close even though Les Miles had them handcuffed during that era. Tennessee sucked, the OOC teams they played sucked and couldn't match talent or elite offense with their defense. The media seems to think it's circa 2015.
I'm expecting another 2-3 loss season for Bama. LSU and Texas and then one of Tennessee, Ole Miss, or TAMU, or Auburn
This post was edited on 8/1/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:46 am to Menatiger
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Bama does have issues going into fall. But they have loaded up on talent
True! I watched their Spring game last evening. They have excellent talent. If one of their quarterbacks steps up, they will be the same Bama we have seen for the last decade.
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:48 am to LSUSkip
Alabama never has a bad year.
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