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re: True Hard-Hitting unadulterated cold facts on when Coach Eaux left the USC program

Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:24 pm to
Derek shouldn’t you be fanning O or feeding him grapes ?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:30 pm to
Ree,
Setting aside that your OP recites no facts, "hard hitting", "unadulterated" "cold" or otherwise, what do you contend these opinions of USC players teach us about Da Coach O's performance at LSU?
Do you contend these opinions are unusual for players and their coaches?
Do you contend that LSU players didn't have the same regard for Lester?
Seems to me the issue is whether The Orgeron experiment is working out. Your post doesn't shed light on that...
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Derek shouldn’t you be fanning O or feeding him grapes ?


His A/C works very well and he prefers M&M's with peanuts over grapes any day of the week.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79420 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:33 pm to
He was an assistant OL coach in the NFL btw
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Ree,
Setting aside that your OP recites no facts, "hard hitting", "unadulterated" "cold" or otherwise, what do you contend these opinions of USC players teach us about Da Coach O's performance at LSU?
Do you contend these opinions are unusual for players and their coaches?
Do you contend that LSU players didn't have the same regard for Lester?
Seems to me the issue is whether The Orgeron experiment is working out. Your post doesn't shed light on that...



Go read the first two sentences of the original post in this thread. If you don't feel like an idiot afterwards, I won't call you out on it.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:37 pm to
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He was an assistant OL coach in the NFL btw


There was a huge difference too. He was not even allowed on the practice field.

The head O-line coach who had never given up the fewest sacks anywhere he had ever been just got that good through osmosis being around the guy.

It REALLY was amazing that it happened that way.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:38 pm to
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and the same one who has sent multiple linemen to the NFL. The guy who has given up the least amount of sacks in a season in both college and the NFL.


Last year O hired the only offensive Broyles award finalist and a year later is firing him. So either this shows why we shouldn’t pick stats to over inflate things or O isn’t so good at making critical hires.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
95023 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:39 pm to
Tiger Rant posters know more than players and other coaches. #dealwithit
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:41 pm to
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Last year O hired the only Broyles award


Were you crying when that happened?

Are you crying over the O-line coach hire?

Who would you have hired? This is the one I really want you to answer by the way.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:50 pm to
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Were you crying when that happened?


I really don’t know how some you get thru life seeing everything in either or extremes.

I said multiple times I thought it was a decent hire, though not a grand slam that you and other pumpers made it out to be. That he’s being let go after 1 year is troubling for many reasons.

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Are you crying over the O-line coach hire


No, looks like a decent hire. I was just pointing out you said the same things about the OC hire and that’s been a disaster. That’s what happens when you cherry pick stats to fit an agenda.

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Who would you have hired? This is the one I really want you to answer by the way


For OL coach? No idea im not a coach so I don’t have a ready list. I I’m fine with the hire but I can look at a resume without the need to cherry pick
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:56 pm to
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No, looks like a decent hire. I was just pointing out you said the same things about the OC hire and that’s been a disaster. That’s what happens when you cherry pick stats to fit an agenda.


What? Cherry pick stats to fit an agenda?

A disaster? I had and still have no problem what-so-ever with Matt Canada. I thought he was a great hire especially since it was Dave Aranda who recommended him. If a DC doesn't know who a good OC is, then there is a problem.

Sometimes people don't get along. Hell me and my second oldest sister act civil when together but we don't like each other. I think it is the zodiac signs or something.

You don't know interviewing or meeting with someone a couple/few times if you will mesh. It happens.

Who would you have hired after Kiffin got a HC job?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79420 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:57 pm to
So you’re saying there is no difference between an OL coach and an assistant OL coach in the NFL.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 1:59 pm to
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O haters and Miles lovers will keep bashing O no matter what he does next year


I’m a little surprised you’re falling for this most idiotic of narratives PJ. I know you’re not one to make rational arguments but this is particularly dumb. There are multiple known Miles critics that are also O critics.

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They are MORE coach fans than TEAM fans


You have this bassackwards. It’s tje CheeriOs that are coach fans not the folks criticizing him. The folks criticizing him want LSU to get back to title contention and don’t think he is capable. Nothing we’ve seen in year 1 indicates he can no matter how much you want to deny it.

Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:00 pm to
Pat Haden knew he couldn't have some dumb, Cajun Fred Flintstone looking mofo'er as the face of USC. But most young players are like that at that age, seeing coaches as father figure types, and then a lot I hate to say it come from fatherless homes.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:03 pm to
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So you’re saying there is no difference between an OL coach and an assistant OL coach in the NFL.


I'm saying I really don't know. But since the new coach gave up the fewest sacks at USC while not having one senior on the team. Then goes to Denver and it happens again while the head O-line coach never gave up the fewest sacks anywhere. It could be a little more than coincidence.

if you are a huge fan of the Denver O-line coach I apologize in advance. I am not trying to knock him and his GREAT history to prop up LSU's new assistant coach.
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:07 pm to
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The haters don't care. They have to twist things to try to make it fit their narrative.


true dat

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Even when it exposes them as morons


it's difficult to fathom what some of these people' IQ level must be. most are amazingly close minded. that is the root of ignorance. most people are sane enough to understand, like it or not, he's the present HC. at least, LSU fans. some of these idiots have to be alters.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:19 pm to
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it's difficult to fathom what some of these people' IQ level must be. most are amazingly close minded. that is the root of ignorance. most people are sane enough to understand, like it or not, he's the present HC. at least, LSU fans. some of these idiots have to be alters.


You just have to use it to your advantage and enjoy. I throw out Aranda giving up 37 points to Miss St and 24 to Troy.

The idiots making excuses for Aranda prove that the case they have to hate Eaux has no bearing what-so-ever. I just sit here on my couch in my robe like Tony Soprano and smile.

I just assume that after they hit the submit button they are like "holy shite, hold on". I didn't mean to say and post that.

They have excuses why Aranda gave up the points and LSU losing. But, now that Eaux also has the excuses they really didn't mean it. Hilarious
This post was edited on 12/31/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63590 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:21 pm to
Your anti-Aranda agenda is weird.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10477 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:40 pm to
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I throw out Aranda giving up 37 points to Miss St and 24 to Troy.
Strange in those 2 losses you try to remove Eaux when it's the only side of the ball he has a clue about.

You Cheerios have been screaming he's the HC, he's supposed to meddle.
So what happened was a lack of meddling, or too much meddling on D?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79420 posts
Posted on 12/31/17 at 2:44 pm to
The Denver OLine was ranked #1 in fewest sacks allowed in 2013

The year before he got there.

LINK

And was #2 in 2012

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