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Trindon's "fair catch" at the end of the first half
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:01 am
From the stands, I didn't see any fair catch signal from Trindon. It looked like he was signaling to stay away from the ball, then changed his mind and picked it up...
Was that a blown call by the refs, or did he really make a fair catch signal?
Was that a blown call by the refs, or did he really make a fair catch signal?
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:02 am to TBTH
It was the right call. A player is not allowed to make any hand gestures then run with the ball.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:03 am to TBTH
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Was that a blown call by the refs, or did he really make a fair catch signal?
It wasn't the fair catch signal. He waived his teammates away from the ball. Apparently that signal, per the rule, precluded him from touching the ball. The call was correct.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:04 am to clooneyisgod
Really bad rule.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:04 am to TBTH
According to Gary, it was the right call. He made an "incomplete pass" signal, waving his arms left and right as the chest-high level, meaning to tell his players to get away from the ball. Verne and Gary said that this is a new rule in college football that you can't advance a punt after making that signal
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:05 am to jampat
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A player is not allowed to make any hand gestures then run with the ball.
You sure about that chief? Cause returners wave their arms to tell their teammates to stay away from the ball.
Also, remember that UCONN returner last year did the fake fair catch? Cause i do
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:05 am to LSUJuice
I see. OK, well that sucks but thanks for the info.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:05 am to HueyP
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Really bad rule.
not really
the signals are the same thing. they both signify that you're not going to return the ball
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:06 am to clooneyisgod
Miles said in his press conference that Holiday was calling off his players and the refs thought he was making an illegal hand motion as he was playing the ball. He said that rule is one of those "iffy" rules in the rulebook
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:06 am to LSUJuice
That is a stupid arse rule right there. That is why I do not watch NFL cause of stupid arse rules like that.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:06 am to YoungMoney
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Miles said in his press conference that Holiday was calling off his players and the refs thought he was making an illegal hand motion
waving off your teammates is an illegal (actually "invalid") hand motion
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:07 am to Impotent Waffle
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That is a stupid arse rule right there.
why?
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Had he not picked up the ball isn't it still live though? Ole Miss still has to touch the ball to stop play? Why isn't the returner still able to touch the ball and advance it?
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
That's what I meant.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:08 am to Hat Tricks
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Had he not picked up the ball isn't it still live though?
for ole miss, yes
for LSU, it's dead
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Why isn't the returner still able to touch the ball and advance it?
because he already signal ed that we're not going to return the ball, essentially
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:09 am to Hat Tricks
It was a make up call for when the refs called a foul on the Ole Miss fair catch.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:09 am to jampat
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It was a make up call for when the refs called a foul on the Ole Miss fair catch.
ole miss had a better argument than LSU
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:10 am to clooneyisgod
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It wasn't the fair catch signal. He waived his teammates away from the ball. Apparently that signal, per the rule, precluded him from touching the ball. The call was correct.
Exactly on
The rule is dumb, but its not like its first rule in CFB to need tweaking ...
But it wasn't the fair catch signal that is waving one hand, usually the right, from side to side in the air, over one's head. Trindon waved both his hands toward the ground, like an incomplete pass or a runner is safe, that is used by teams to signal to other members that he isnt planning to run the ball back so no worries. I kinda missed exactly what happened being in the Student Section and all, but I'm guessing TH saw something and the ball took a perfect bounce. So basically good call, crappy rule
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:12 am to jampat
One aspect of the play that I haven't heard discussed is that the ball bounced.
I always thought that once the ball bounced that a fair catch was not possible and that the ball could be advanced. I'm not sure about that but I've always thought that.
I always thought that once the ball bounced that a fair catch was not possible and that the ball could be advanced. I'm not sure about that but I've always thought that.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:13 am to Impotent Waffle
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That is a stupid arse rule right there. That is why I do not watch NFL cause of stupid arse rules like that.
Well at least the NFL knows how to crown a champion. College football still hasn't figured that out.
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