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re: Trent Johnson to be hired today per WGSO and Fox 44
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:48 pm to xiv
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:48 pm to xiv
quote:
Kind of like having a sanction-decimated roster and winning the SEC.
No, more of like building a program at Nevada and after 2 losing season, you coach them to three winning seasons culminating in a Sweet 16. Then move to Stanford where you coach 4 straight winning seasons, make the NCAA 3 of 4 seasons and culminate in a Sweet 16 appearance.
Whereas, John Brady coached Samford to a losing season his first year, never got them into the postseason at any time. Then when fired from LSU had led them to back to back losing seasons.
John Brady started a loser and ended a loser.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:50 pm to drizztiger
quote:
No, more of like building a program at Nevada and after 2 losing season, you coach them to three winning seasons culminating in a Sweet 16. Then move to Stanford where you coach 4 straight winning seasons, make the NCAA 3 of 4 seasons and culminate in a Sweet 16 appearance.
Whereas, John Brady coached Samford to a losing season his first year, never got them into the postseason at any time. Then when fired from LSU had led them to back to back losing seasons.
John Brady started a loser and ended a loser.
This post was edited on 4/9/08 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:53 pm to LSUMJ
Don't know what to think about this one....... there's a big difference between Northern California and Baton Rouge....
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:55 pm to SNAPPERHEAD
quote:
He has to be an improvement over Brady
I hope you are correct.
It that is your measuring stick he must get to the final eight in two years and get to the semis in about eight. Still convinced?
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:57 pm to HOUbengal
Let's hope his first move is to find a POINT GUARD! Welcome to LSU Mr. Johnson!
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:57 pm to drizztiger
quote:LSU had a winning season in 2006-2007.
Then when fired from LSU had led them to back to back losing seasons.
I'm only calling that a winning season since you call "16-14" a winning season in Johnson's favor.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 2:58 pm to roygu
quote:
It that is your measuring stick he must get to the final eight in two years and get to the semis in about eight. Still convinced?
We lost in the Sweet 16 in 00, not the Elite 8. Lost BAD. To a big underdog in Wisconsin.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:00 pm to xiv
Brady/Pierre in the last 5 years
Overall winning %: .590
NCAA Tourney: 4-3, one Final Four appearance
One SEC title
Johnson at Stanford
Overall winnint %: .625
NCAA Tourney: 2-3, one Sweet 16
No Pac-10 titles
Brady's last five years, collectively, were, arguably, better than Johnson's four at Stanford.
Overall winning %: .590
NCAA Tourney: 4-3, one Final Four appearance
One SEC title
Johnson at Stanford
Overall winnint %: .625
NCAA Tourney: 2-3, one Sweet 16
No Pac-10 titles
Brady's last five years, collectively, were, arguably, better than Johnson's four at Stanford.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:01 pm to xiv
quote:
LSU had a winning season in 2006-2007.
You are correct. I was considering leading a team to 6th place in a 6 team division in back to back seasons as a losing record.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:03 pm to ENYOMOUT
quote:
At least he's not from Samford.
Tillete wouldn't have bothered me too much
This post was edited on 4/9/08 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:03 pm to Joe Joe Joe
quote:
You need to factor in the re-emergence of UCLA, the run Washington made for two years when Brandon Roy was there, Arizona being a consistent power (obviously not this year), as well as WSU and ASU getting better under Bennett and Sendek. The Pac-10 is a very good basketball conference and has improved in the four years since Johnson got there. I see all winning records, improvement, and three NCAA births. Looks pretty good to me.
Damn, that sounds as bad as draconian sanctions. Interesting that the excuses have already started. I can't wait until next season. ;)
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:05 pm to xiv
Record only had a small part to play in why Brady is no longer here.
He's gone because he was a prick. He alienated the fanbase as well as the former players. Generally he was a poor representation of what LSU BBall should be.
Some coaches like Knight can be a prick and get by. Brady didn't have the resume to do that. So once the record started being mediocre at best, it was time to cut bait.
Nobody knows how TJ will do. But, he looks to be a solid hire. One thing also is that LSU is in pretty good shape next year. There is alot of experience coming back and "hopefully" a good recruiting class coming in.
He's gone because he was a prick. He alienated the fanbase as well as the former players. Generally he was a poor representation of what LSU BBall should be.
Some coaches like Knight can be a prick and get by. Brady didn't have the resume to do that. So once the record started being mediocre at best, it was time to cut bait.
Nobody knows how TJ will do. But, he looks to be a solid hire. One thing also is that LSU is in pretty good shape next year. There is alot of experience coming back and "hopefully" a good recruiting class coming in.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:06 pm to xiv
quote:
Brady in the last 17 years
NCAA Tourney: 4 appearances.
That's a better representation of John Brady's coaching mediocrity.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
no brady was bashed because it took 4 years to make the NCAA Tourney
Wasn't Swift's Sweet 16 team in 1999-2000 Brady's third team ?
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:06 pm to Ron Mexico
1999-00
Nevada
9-20
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2000-01
Nevada
10-18
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2001-02
Nevada
17-13
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2002-03
Nevada
18-14
NIT First Round, WAC Tournament runner-up
2003-04
Nevada
25-9
NCAA Sweet 16, WAC Tournament champions,
WAC regular season champions
2004-05
Stanford
18-13
NCAA First Round
2005-06
Stanford
16-14
NIT Second Round
2006-07
Stanford
18-13
NCAA First Round
TOTALS
Career: 131-114 (8 seasons)
at Stanford: 52-40 (3 seasons)
at Nevada: 79-74 (5 seasons)
Looks average to me-- Let' hope it improves
Nevada
9-20
---
2000-01
Nevada
10-18
---
2001-02
Nevada
17-13
---
2002-03
Nevada
18-14
NIT First Round, WAC Tournament runner-up
2003-04
Nevada
25-9
NCAA Sweet 16, WAC Tournament champions,
WAC regular season champions
2004-05
Stanford
18-13
NCAA First Round
2005-06
Stanford
16-14
NIT Second Round
2006-07
Stanford
18-13
NCAA First Round
TOTALS
Career: 131-114 (8 seasons)
at Stanford: 52-40 (3 seasons)
at Nevada: 79-74 (5 seasons)
Looks average to me-- Let' hope it improves
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:07 pm to drizztiger
quote:...in what appeared to be an effort to underrate Brady and overrate Johnson.
You are correct. I was considering leading a team to 6th place in a 6 team division in back to back seasons as a losing record.
Hey, we all know that the proof will be in the puddin'. I think the Johnson years will be generally good, and there will be plenty of reasons to celebrate LSU Basketball.
Unfortunately, our fans will consist of the following:
95% complete retards
5% other
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:08 pm to ROUSTER
quote:Virtually every coach in the world is a prick. Why did it make Brady so special to be one?
He's gone because he was a prick.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:11 pm to xiv
This looks like the post Nolan Richardson hire. Hire some one safe and politically correct. If it does not work out we can hope for a better coach in 4-5 years
Please Trent prove me wrong!
Please Trent prove me wrong!
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:11 pm to xiv
It didn't, it simply got him fired.
You simply can't bite the hand that feeds you. Brady created NO excitement with LSU BBall. Even when we were winning, we weren't selling out. Some will blame the fans. I don't, I blame the coach. He never ever sold the program and was basically a Dick towards the fans.
Like I said, you get away with that when the seats are filled and the team wins. But, when the building's 1/2 empty and you start to lose. You find yourself taking the Ark St job.
You simply can't bite the hand that feeds you. Brady created NO excitement with LSU BBall. Even when we were winning, we weren't selling out. Some will blame the fans. I don't, I blame the coach. He never ever sold the program and was basically a Dick towards the fans.
Like I said, you get away with that when the seats are filled and the team wins. But, when the building's 1/2 empty and you start to lose. You find yourself taking the Ark St job.
Posted on 4/9/08 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
i think Ford or even Brey would have been better hires.
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Ford turned us down, per Shreveport Times today.
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Ford turned us down, per Shreveport Times today.
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