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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
Wade easily gets that Ben Simmons team into the tournament bare minimum. The early season collapses, and that late season collapse doesn’t even happen. That should show people how poorly coached that team was.


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TheCaterpillar
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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this team wouldnt have any losses if Ben Simmons were on it



Agreed.



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Bjorn Cyborg
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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this team wouldnt have any losses if Ben Simmons were on it


The questions seems to be an either/or, so Simmons would not be an addition to this team. You would add Simmons, but take away Waters.

Simmons is the better player, and it's not really debatable. It then just comes down to chemistry, coachability, etc.


TheCaterpillar
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Simmons was nothing but a finisher at the rim.



And an elite rebounder and passer for the PG position? And that "just a finisher at the rim" guy averaged over 19 pts and had over a 29 PER.

I like Tremont as a person and teammate more for sure, but Ben Simmons is one of the best point guards on the entire planet. Imagine the length on this team with him at PG.


lsupride87
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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but take away Waters.

And replace him with someone who averages more points, on 16% better FG%, only 1 less assist per game with 8 more rebounds a game with 8 points better effeciency


Tough call, tough call


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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
Yeah, and at the end of the season, teams took away the paint and literally let Simmons shoot uncontested.

He was awful.


DhanTigers212
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
Ya but it’s more than just the numbers. Do you remember the last 8 minutes of the Oklahoma game?


TheCaterpillar
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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Simmons is the better player, and it's not really debatable. It then just comes down to chemistry, coachability, etc.



Exactly.

Johnny Jones was so fricking bad. Will Wade would've had that Ben Simmons team as a 5 seed. That was the worst coaching job for a single season in LSU basketball history. Look at where those players are now.

Insanity that we missed the tournament. Johnny completely lost the locker room.


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Lester Earl
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Yeah, and at the end of the season, teams took away the paint and literally let Simmons shoot uncontested.

He was awful.



i love when people make shite up


TheCaterpillar
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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And replace him with someone who averages more points, on 16% better FG%, only 1 less assist per game with 8 more rebounds a game with 8 points better effeciency


Tough call, tough call





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Lester Earl
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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Ya but it’s more than just the numbers. Do you remember the last 8 minutes of the Oklahoma game?




do you remember the end of the Arkansas game


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NFLSU
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
Make shite up?

If you think teams didn’t learn how to flood the paint and make Simmons shoot & brick uncontested shots, then you simply weren’t watching.


lsupride87
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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Yeah, and at the end of the season, teams took away the paint and literally let Simmons shoot uncontested.

He was awful.

fricking yes!!!! I love these takes to start my monday morning


Simmons last 10 games he averaged:

18.6 pts---54.1%---10.4 rebs---4.2 asst


TheCaterpillar
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2004
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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Yeah, and at the end of the season, teams took away the paint and literally let Simmons shoot uncontested.

He was awful.



First of all, this is hyperbole.

And even if it were true, our head coach now would easily scheme around that strategy with this roster. We're talking this roster with Ben Simmons instead of Waters.

Think of the Length on the floor with KBW, Naz, Marlon Taylor, Mays, and Simmons. Holy shite.





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NFLSU
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
I love when people pimp Simmons FG% then deny he scored anything outside of dunks and layups.

Clint Capela has a great shooting % too!


Lester Earl
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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Make shite up?

If you think teams didn’t learn how to flood the paint and make Simmons shoot & brick uncontested shots, then you simply weren’t watching



be more specific, please


lsupride87
LSU Fan
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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I love when people pimp Simmons FG% then deny he scored anything outside of dunks and layups.

Dude, you said he was shut down and awful at the end of the season.


I present to you again

Simmons last 10 games he averaged:

18.6 pts---54.1%---10.4 rebs---4.2 asst


That is elite numbers in college basketball


Defend yourself


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Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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Tough call, tough call


I agree with you. I was just clarifying what the original question was.


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Lester Earl
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
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I love when people pimp Simmons FG% then deny he scored anything outside of dunks and layups.



i love when people act like its a negative when you are the best ball handler on the floor and can score at will.


BowDownToLSU
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re: Tremont Waters or Ben Simmons at LSU
The one that loves LSU


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