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re: Transfer QB?

Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:30 am to
Posted by cartig
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:30 am to
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O might just have his eye on a stud transfer candidate?
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But how we he know ?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35399 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:32 am to
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The majority of top rated QBs transfer. It’s the world we live in
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can you provide just a single shred of evidence to show this is even remotely close to true?


Why yes, yes I can. This has nothing to do with Orgeron and is a problem that affects every program. Hell, Alabama has lost more top QBs than anyone.

Why are blue chip QBs transferring at an alarming rate?


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If it seems like high-profile quarterback recruits transfer at an unusually high rate, well, it’s because they do.

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Using 247Sports’ composite rankings, FOX Sports researched the careers of every Top 50 quarterback recruit that signed from 2011-14.

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Exactly half — 100 of 200 — transferred from their original school.


Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16704 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:33 am to
Maybe you can entice one player to stay with a designed package considering you have a dual and pro-style guy. LN has an additional year as well.

I know someone mentioned that Bama doesn't have this issue which is not true. Blake Barnett (#2 pro) transferred; David Cornwell (#4 pro) transferred; Cooper Bateman (#4 pro) transfer; Phillip Sims (#1 pro) transfer. That's since 2010 and these are their only top 10 QBs signed with the exception of Tua and Hurts since 2010.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:38 am to
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Are you saying that it's the coach's fault every time a kid transfers?


yes.

I think some accountability for people who get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, or in Os case, millions of dollars, annually, is not a bad thing.

you are obviously entitled to your own opinion and if you want to throw your hands up and say well thats just the way the cookie crumbles thats your perogative.

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This idea that a QB might transfer is somehow O's fault just seems like another reason to pile onto him because people don't like him as coach and I just
happen to disagree.


well thats fine. but as you can see based on my response above, I am not blaming O because its O, I am blaming him because he is the head coach and it ultimately falls on the head coach to manage your roster.

This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30692 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:57 am to
What is McMillan is a grad transfer?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16171 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 11:08 am to
why is it an automatic that one of LSU's two good QB's transfers. There are other teams that have more than one good QB on the roster. Why is it just a given that one of ours transfers?
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
18238 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:18 pm to
I heard Jacoby Stevens can play QB.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77855 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 12:31 pm to
He probably can
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35399 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:34 pm to
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Dave England


You called me out asking for proof of my statement. I provided you an answer, and of course you ignored it since it did not follow your thinking.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:55 pm to
According to Nick Saban, the team knows who should be the starters and who should be spectators.
I trust Nick. By the time spring practice is over, the team will know who is the starting QB. I expect, due to better coaching, who ever wins the starting job, we will be in good hands.

Not Hearsay, listen to the player.
Helaire Knows
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:51 pm to
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So spring practice is now a loser leaves town match?


Look like winner qb will be starter, loser mops up or transfers. Duel in Tiger Stadium.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 8:16 am to
Guys- I don’t think the transfer is either of our top 2

People seem to be jumping to that conclusion
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 8:38 am to
Has anybody else gone back and watched and listened to O's press conference again? I did and that's not what O said at all. In fact, that is fake news.

O mentioned that he had a couple of names of QBs who would be transferring. So, of course, the reporters asked O for their names and when he would sign one of them. O responded we will wait until after spring practice is over to look at it again.

Then the next thing you know, the Advocate is all of a sudden reporting that O said that one of the QBs may be transferring after the Spring. Nonetheless, that's not what coach O said at all and I don't have any clue where they got that from.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:01 pm to
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If one of them transfers, it will inevitably be blamed on O.


Isn't o the head coach? Isn't he the one who's responsible for the team?

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The O hater crowd are always looking and searching for anything they can find to blame it on O.


That's rich coming from a guy like you. Since your first day on the rant, you've blamed everything that goes wrong with the football team on Les Miles. Even months after Miles was canned.

You're one of a kind Space Clownboy.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 1:07 pm to
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Moreover Miles was fired back in 2016 as obviously, you haven't heard about it yet.


Yet when things go wrong, you keep blaming Miles instead of the man who is now responsible for the team. You won't blame the man who should now be receiving the blame when things don't go as planned. You know who he is Space Clownboy. It's Coach o. Say it with me friend, COACH o!
This post was edited on 3/17/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 7:32 pm to
Your article skews the numbers by including 3* prospects. Of course the Lindsay Scott’s of the world will affect those percentages.

And what about QBs like Harris who lose their starting jobs? How do they affect the numbers? The article doesn’t address that either.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35399 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:11 pm to
It doesn’t skew any numbers. It’s the top 50 quarterbacks. Period.

You’re assuming if you looked at only 4 or 5 stars, the numbers would look better. That may not be the case. They may look worse.

And why would it address Brandon Harris? Players transfer for myriad reasons. Their reasons are not relevant to the story.

You asked for a “shred” of evidence. I provided it and you want to pick apart a well written and researched story.

It’s ok to be wrong.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 3/18/18 at 8:42 pm to
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This has nothing to do with Orgeron and is a problem that affects every program. Hell, Alabama has lost more top QBs than anyone.


hell, how about A&M. sumlin lost more top qb's than anyone I've ever seen. bama has also lost a lot
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 10:28 am to
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I provided it and you want to pick apart a well written and researched story.


well yeah, of course I picked it apart. it was not very difficult.

and LOL at referring to anything written by stuart mandel as "well-written".


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Players transfer for myriad reasons. Their reasons are not relevant to the story.


well if a player did start, then got benched, I think it makes a difference than if a freshman came in , got redshirted, then got butthurt and left because he never saw the field, as opposed to someone like Harris who at least got a shot to prove hes the starter, only to lose that job.

but youre right, totally irrelevant. every situation is the same and can simply be lumped together.
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