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Top 3 X's and O's HC's at LSU(Football)

Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:22 am
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:22 am
Going back to Charlie Mac. I think it would be fair to say that Kelly immediately jumps into Top 3. I would put my top 3 as: Saban, Kelly, Arnsbarger. That's really amazing considering we've had 10 different coaches since Mac and Kelly hasn't coached a down in a game for LSU. Teaching schemes starts with teaching kids how to prepare mentally and physically to handle the load. I love the complete approach that this staff, under Kelly, is implementing to get these guys ready to execute the game plan in the fall.It's going to be awesome to have a coaching staff again that may actually win 2-3 games a year that were due to superior coaching/scheming and adjusting.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 9:24 am
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16851 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:27 am to
Arnsparger.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:30 am to
Mac was the finest defensive mind in LSU history.

Period. Full stop.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11875 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:42 am to
I'd say probably Mulkey #1, Saban #2.
All the other ones seemed to focus on recruiting and motivation.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:45 am to
I think Arnsbarger was ahead of his time. I wouldn't disagree with him being #2 on the list. It will really be hard to determine coaching impact from modern-day coaches vs. guys of his era. CFB has such a completely different landscape now.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16463 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:45 am to
Skippy was a fairly knowledgeable baseball guy…
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3181 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:53 am to
Skip
Aranda
Basketball Brady
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 8:54 am
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Saban, Kelly, Arnsbarger.


If you're just talking football since Mac, the other candidates are O, Miles, Dinardo, Hallman, Archer, and Stovall. You're not really going out on a limb with your top 3.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:54 am to
Mac was legit for his day, but coaching defense scheming for a 75/25 run/pass ratio was ALOT easier.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72717 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:57 am to
arnsparger hardly ever blitzed in those days either.

different time.

we were not facing fun n gun offenses or air raid
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155707 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:18 am to
Aranda
Saban
Tex Winter
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5379 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Skippy was a fairly knowledgeable baseball guy…


I've heard from guys that played under both skip and smoke that Smoke was a fairly better tactical coach than Skip. Just couldn't manage a team.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:26 am to
Right...that was the point. It's amazing the lack of skilled tacticians that have actually coached this program in the past vs how much winning we've done.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16851 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I think Arnsbarger was ahead of his time. I wouldn't disagree with him being #2 on the list. It will really be hard to determine coaching impact from modern-day coaches vs. guys of his era. CFB has such a completely different landscape now.


Lol.

I wasn’t rating him number one or two or anywhere.

I was pointing out his name is spelled “Arnsparger,” not “Arnsbarger.”
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:28 am to
Oh I didn't realize you were taking the time to spell check my post vs actually weighing in on the topic. Sorry...i'll do better.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81654 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Dinardo
Underrated.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27825 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:08 pm to
Saban certainly knows Defense but wouldn’t say he’s an Xs and Os guy on offense.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:21 pm to
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I'd say probably Mulkey #1, Saban #2.


IMO Saban is/was excellent on defensive Xs and Os. Whatever Saban weaknesses are in Xs and Os he makes up for it on the recruiting trial and assistant coaches.

Winning on the recruiting trail = my guy will straight beat your guy 9 out of 10 times regardless of scheme.

Assistant coaches are to fill in my (Saban) knowledge gap which is not much.
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