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re: Top 10 List of players that have to be retained this offseason
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:03 pm to burreauxxx
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:03 pm to burreauxxx
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Someone with talent. Just teach them how to snap the damn ball
You really have no idea what the centers full job really is do you?
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Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:05 pm to Amadeo
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Would be nice if the rumors of Ika actually returning to team happens as well.
Wait, this might happen??
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:06 pm to TexTgrTed
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Hoping against hope but if Jabril Cox would return that’d be fantastic.
Just forget it.
He came here to prove he could play with the best in CFB and he did that.
He’s a fool if he returns. Just too risky.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:13 pm to Lester Earl
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Orgeron’s issues this season have not been self inflicted, for the most part.
Uh, recruiting?
If the freshmen and all these “highly ranked” sophomores like Kardell Thomas or Bradford were worth a damn they’d be getting reps
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Shanahan hasn’t been terrible. He’s been completely serviceable.
He has executed every snap and he tries. That’s the best thing I can say about him. Other than that, just watch him more closely than you are and you’ll clearly see a player who is often dominated and pushed into our backfield. It’s pretty impossible to run the ball when the nose guard can bench press the center in the backfield which has happened far too much
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:15 pm to memphis tiger
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Because it is just not possible for them to improve
Hope and pray
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:18 pm to lostinbr
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So you have no idea. Got it.
Sure I do. You have interior players you’ve recruited the last few years like Martinez, Turner, Hines, etc.
Are you suggesting Orgeron has failed in recruiting? Because you can’t really have it both ways.
Find your most physically dominating player for the position and spend an off-season teaching him how to snap a fricking ball. It’s not rocket science. Every other program does it lol
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:23 pm to memphis tiger
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You really have no idea what the centers full job really is do you?
If by this you are referencing calling the defensive alignments and checks etc, Guards can do that too. And it’s not rocket science so perhaps we need to look inward at the players we’ve recruited that aren’t capable. Literally every shotgun team in the country faces this issue and they don’t have to go to the Ivy League to grab a multi-year starter. At LSU, we should demand better. We need to recruit better. We need to develop and teach better. Or why else do we have a payroll that among the highest in the fricking nation? It’s embarrassing
One thing I know for sure is that if we want to start running the ball better then step one is to remove an Ivy League talent who is getting physically collapsed by 340-lb SEC nose guards
Posted on 12/13/20 at 1:51 pm to JKChesterton
Why Stevens hasn’t played LB is baffling. He’s been virtually invisible as a safety in this scheme and his NFL future is at LB. He’s as big, if not bigger than Queen...who has done just fine at LB.
Hell, Cox is probably a bit smaller (weight-wise), is BETTER in coverage, and he is playing LB.
Hell, Cox is probably a bit smaller (weight-wise), is BETTER in coverage, and he is playing LB.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 12/13/20 at 2:04 pm to Chalkywhite84
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This year mightve hurt jacoby's stock?
He has been awful
He’s not going to be used in the nfl like he was this year. He’ll be used like last year
Posted on 12/13/20 at 2:11 pm to burreauxxx
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Sure I do. You have interior players you’ve recruited the last few years like Martinez, Turner, Hines, etc.
Chasen Hines is already starting at guard. Yes, he was the backup plan at center before we got Shanahan. Remember how Hines got hurt last night and our backup TACKLE went in for him?
As for the Martinez and Turner, I guess your previous statement...
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If the freshmen and all these “highly ranked” sophomores like Kardell Thomas or Bradford were worth a damn they’d be getting reps
...doesn’t apply to them?
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Are you suggesting Orgeron has failed in recruiting? Because you can’t really have it both ways.
At recruiting OL? Yes.
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Find your most physically dominating player for the position and spend an off-season teaching him how to snap a fricking ball. It’s not rocket science. Every other program does it lol
Other programs at LSU’s level have more OL depth than we do.
The larger point is that you’re acting like none of these upperclassmen can contribute next year because the team is bad this year. That’s bullshite. If Shanahan stays and someone else passes him on the depth chart then great. But saying you want these guys to leave because you want to see young guys play, while ignoring the impact that overall youth has had on this year’s squad, is asinine.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 2:36 pm to burreauxxx
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Uh, recruiting?
If the freshmen and all these “highly ranked” sophomores like Kardell Thomas or Bradford were worth a damn they’d be getting reps
OL timeline & sweet spot is year 3.
Bradford is overweight & Thomas had injury issues.
Every player ahead of them had experience. It’s not hard to see why they haven’t played.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 2:41 pm to lostinbr
I didn’t say I wanted to them to leave, I suggested that I think it’s being overemphasized as to the importance to re-recruit a bunch of average players that contributed to this years results which happened to be LSUs worst team in a LONG time.
You know Ed will likely make some assurances or else why the hell would they come back to waste a year of their lives? So you’re basically having to make some assurances to what amounted to poor-to-average production and very little professional talent.
I think we should be better than that. But if you guys get off on being a mid-level sec program than that’s your prerogative I guess.
Thanks for at least admitting that Ed has sucked at OLine recruiting, every bit as much as Miles was accused of it
You know Ed will likely make some assurances or else why the hell would they come back to waste a year of their lives? So you’re basically having to make some assurances to what amounted to poor-to-average production and very little professional talent.
I think we should be better than that. But if you guys get off on being a mid-level sec program than that’s your prerogative I guess.
Thanks for at least admitting that Ed has sucked at OLine recruiting, every bit as much as Miles was accused of it
Posted on 12/13/20 at 2:45 pm to burreauxxx
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to the importance to re-recruit a bunch of average players that contributed to this years results
You’re too stupid to realize why this team has been average lol
Posted on 12/13/20 at 2:58 pm to burreauxxx
Well on top of having 9 underclassmen go to the nfl, All the top end talent opted out that was supposed to be the headliners for 2020, and then your QB gets hurt.
These mid tier guys are crucial for success. Of course they can’t beat bama, not without the 1st Rd talent that was supposed to be on the roster. But they are the indeed the foundation of any great team. Why does this even have to be explained to you, I’m not sure
These mid tier guys are crucial for success. Of course they can’t beat bama, not without the 1st Rd talent that was supposed to be on the roster. But they are the indeed the foundation of any great team. Why does this even have to be explained to you, I’m not sure
Posted on 12/13/20 at 3:08 pm to Lester Earl
I still haven’t heard why we lost in embarrassing fashion at home to a lowly program like State
Or how we gave up a million yards and lost to a first-time starting freshman QB at Mizzou
Or how we suffered the worst defeat in program history to Auburn while making Nix look like a Heisman candidate, not to mention Bama showing mercy on us at halftime in Tiger Stadium
So I guess you’ll just have to inform me on which is these things is acceptable for the program the stature of LSU, and why we should just take your excuses and be happy with this season and direction of this program
No thanks
This is what’s always been wrong with LSU imo. Our own fans don’t understand what we should be as a program and are ready to accept excuses for mediocrity. It really speaks more to Louisiana and it’s people how we accept mediocrity and can’t get out of our own way as a state on so many areas.
Or how we gave up a million yards and lost to a first-time starting freshman QB at Mizzou
Or how we suffered the worst defeat in program history to Auburn while making Nix look like a Heisman candidate, not to mention Bama showing mercy on us at halftime in Tiger Stadium
So I guess you’ll just have to inform me on which is these things is acceptable for the program the stature of LSU, and why we should just take your excuses and be happy with this season and direction of this program
No thanks
This is what’s always been wrong with LSU imo. Our own fans don’t understand what we should be as a program and are ready to accept excuses for mediocrity. It really speaks more to Louisiana and it’s people how we accept mediocrity and can’t get out of our own way as a state on so many areas.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 3:10 pm to Lester Earl
Are we really concerned that Chase has started a trend? If Stingley opts out, he will have played very little competitive football between the Clemson game and the first NFL rookie minicamp in the spring of 2022.
Posted on 12/13/20 at 8:53 pm to TigerNE
I don’t think Stingley opts out.
Maybe at the point in which they get mathematically from winning the SECW
Maybe at the point in which they get mathematically from winning the SECW
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:02 pm to burreauxxx
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I still haven’t heard why we lost in embarrassing fashion at home to a lowly program like State
Bo Pelini.
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Or how we gave up a million yards and lost to a first-time starting freshman QB at Mizzou
Bo Pelini.
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Or how we suffered the worst defeat in program history to Auburn while making Nix look like a Heisman candidate, not to mention Bama showing mercy on us at halftime in Tiger Stadium
Bo Pelini.
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