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Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:26 pm to Big4SALTbro
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We aren’t getting in with 9 straight losses to bama. Our path to the nc is beat bama. It’s our only path, we could be 11-1 with that one being bama and we aren’t going no matter how strong the schedule is.
bullshite- A close loss to Bama and we finish 11-1, we should be in against any other 1 loss team. Now, the exceptions to that:
If Bama has 1 loss and they beat us plus Clemson and a couple others are 12-0, then of course we are out. Also, maybe Georgia or another high ranked team like Ohio State with 1 loss could also get the nod. Now, if we beat Bama and lose to let's say Florida earlier in the season, then we are moving up like a freight train, and that Bama win would get us in over OSU or Georgia being 11-1, just because we beat Bama!
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:28 pm to RealityTiger
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You completely missed my point. It went over your head
No i didn't, you just keep taking everything literally. The OP asked why we wouldn't want Florida to win since it would hurt our SOS and i answered. Sorry i didn't qualify my answer with a "I think" or "if you look at that that past playoff rankings" I never said they don't consider SOS at all, YOU made that leap because you are taking the 1 sentence too literally. They don't use a formula, so i don't need to know EXACTLY what will determine the committee's choices to understand that 1 game for one of our opponents won't swing things. Or i guess should say i feel confident in saying that the chances are....
All you need to do is look at what they've done in the past. In 2014 Michigan got smoked by Notre Dame, did that hurt Ohio State? Well, i guess we don't know for sure, but Ohio State did make the playoff so whatever damage it did to them was not too bad now was it? How about Michigan State in 2015, did Penn State's loss to Temple hurt them? Again to use your standard, we don't know, but they did make the playoff with a loss to a 6-7 team, so....or how about 2016 Washington, did USC getting destroyed by Alabama hurt them?
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think we got off on the wrong foot. Let's just let it go.
fair enough, but with all due respect, i feel an incredible sense of irony with you saying I'm making an assumption since you are about my statement which wasn't meant as a declarative fact, but as an guess to a question that was asked. I see no reason to think 1 game LSU is not involved in will swing things based on SOS.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:30 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:actually, I do.
So you want Tech to beat Texas right?
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:32 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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That would make us UCF
I’ll give 20 min to figure the difference between LSU and UCF that completely neuters your argument. After that 20 mins, I will have Chicken relegate you to only being able to read and post on the Soccer Board.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:34 pm to nvasil1
quote:this one needs more upvotes.
Miami and Auburn ended up being nowhere near as good as expected last year, yet our strength of schedule was still one of the best in the country, and helped us land the Fiesta Bowl bid.
I think you're putting too much weight on a lone Gator win in August making a difference for us in December.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:37 pm to clamdip
Hypothetical scenario, say we need a Florida to beat team x and lsu is guaranteed a playoff spot, are y'all rooting against Florida bc," F Florida, and I'll never root for a gaytor" just dumb.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Wouldn't you say that LSU beating Florida and going 11-1 is more realistic than LSU going undefeated or bust? LSU needs to beat Bama. That's obvious. Doesn't even need to be said. But let's say LSU plays them close and loses by a last minute score (a la 2014/2016) - then who knows? Maybe they will look at the full body and say we deserve a shot. It certainly couldn't hurt.
Of course its more realistic, what I'm saying is if it comes down to that, it won't matter if Florida beat's Miami today, We play in the SEC West and have an OOC true road game against a team that will be in the top 10 when we play. Do you honestly think whether Florida is 10-2 or 8-4 would be the difference?
What it will boil down to is what other teams are in contention. If we just assume we lose to Bama then we'd probably should root for them in the SEC CG and hope whoever wins the East already has a loss. Clemson should waltz thru the ACC so we should probably root for that. So far the committee has gone with only teams with 0-1 loss, so my guess it would help us a lot more if 2 of the other 5 P5 conference do not have a team with fewer than 2 losses than the outcome of Florida-Miami.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:48 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
frick Florida
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:51 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
I hate when people say we want them to win because it'll make us look better when we beat them. This is loser mentality. I don't like franks . I think he is a lier who strung us along and will never ever root for them EVER
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:52 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
quote:This is patently false.
The more highly ranked teams that keep losing that are on our schedule, the worse off we are. Simple
You are listening too much to the talking heads on ESPN. "The SEC is top-heavy, not the depth it used to have."... blah, blah, blah, and at the end of the day those top heavy teams the last two years (UGA, Bama) have made the playoffs. In fact, both would have made it the last 2 years if UGA didn't have to go through Bama in a conference title game. In other words, if you play in the SEC, a 1-loss record will get you in the CFP.
Beating up on weak opponents is a tried and true method, also. Ask Notre Dame and Clemson.
And the added bonus of Florida floundering to, say, 7-5 is that they lose steam on the recruiting trail to Miami, FSU, UCF, etc.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:54 pm to lostinbr
quote:The fact that these 2 tards cannot grasp this is pretty funny.
A bad Florida program is better for LSU than a good Florida program.
Newsflash: the SEC hasn't ever gone undefeated out-of-conference. It won't this year. And, you know what? The SEC will still be just fine in the CFP clout department.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 12:56 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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I just haven't heard a logical reason to root against having a stronger strength of schedule.
Florida winning or losing this game will not change what bowl game we're selected for.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:03 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
quote:this is the ole Iron Bowl scenario. LSU needs either Aub/Bama to win the Iron Bowl in order to win the SEC West (or SEC in days gone by).
Hypothetical scenario, say we need a Florida to beat team x and lsu is guaranteed a playoff spot, are y'all rooting against Florida bc," F Florida, and I'll never root for a gaytor" just dumb.
What LSU fan wouldn't root for the right outcome?
Obviously question back to you: do you think LSU and Miami are going to be fighting for that last CFP spot this year come early December? What if, instead, LSU and Florida are?(*)
In that scenario... OOPSY! you pulled for the wrong team today!
See how silly you are to put much stock in any August 24th OOC game in relation to LSU's prospects?
(*) and don't think that this can't happen, btw:
LSU goes 11-1 with loss only to Bama
Florida goes 11-1 with close loss @LSU
Bama barely edges Florida in the SECCG.
Committee has to decide CFP:
1. Bama (13-0)
2. Clemson (13-0)
3. Notre Dame (12-0)
4? LSU (11-1), Florida (11-2)
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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If Florida losing to Miami is better for LSU why isn’t Texas losing to La Tech better for us also?
Do you really look at the world this way or is this just a troll?
I don't think what happens in any 1 game for any of our opponents matters in the way the OP and you are implying, namely the SOS and how that may impact our playoff chances in any meaningful way. So a loss today by Florida and a loss by Texas next would, in my view basically be neutral as far as LSU's playoff chances. Now if Texas loses to a non-P5 team the week before we play them, then that would take luster off our game which would mean less hype leading into and less of a boost to us if we win, but that's not the same as saying it would hurt us with the committee as far as playoff rankings because past evidence has shown it would not.
As for Florida, again, this one game vs Miami would be neutral to LSU's playoff chances thus season in my view based again on what the committee has down in the past and our overall SOS. Long term however it would most certainly be better for LSU if Florida fell off for an extended period since we play them every year. Again i refer you to Tennessee who has been down for a while now and that has had exactly zero perceptible impact on Alabama's playoff chances even in years when they didn't win the SEC West or SEC title. So the more losses against Miami and FSU the better.
Texas not being in our conference but directly competing against A&M, who is, for recruits it would be in our long term interests to have them really back.
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:04 pm to clamdip
Wrong bc if we are both fighting over the last spot the head to head is the default tie breaker
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:09 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Hypothetical scenario, say we need a Florida to beat team x and lsu is guaranteed a playoff spot, are y'all rooting against Florida bc," F Florida, and I'll never root for a gaytor" just dumb.
of course not you numbnuts, that's not the same as rooting for them in an OOC game because it makes our SOS "better" at the margins
I said I'd root for the Tailban over Alabama, but obviously if we needed Bama to beat Auburn so LSU could advance to the SECCG (and that scenario did happen in the 90's then AND ONLY THEN would i root for Alabama
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:10 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
quote:"But, Florida won their division. LSU didn't even win their division." "Why punish Florida for having to play Bama in the SECCG?" These are the kinds of arguments the media will make. I guarantee you.
Wrong bc if we are both fighting over the last spot the head to head is the default tie breaker
Answer the question: Do you honestly believe Florida beating Miami TODAY might mean LSU edges Miami or someone else for the last CFP spot?
And, if so, would you put that has a higher probability of happening than what we do know? Which is: Florida being strong and dominating the state of Florida in recruiting has shown to be a bad thing for LSU over the years.
I'm going with the latter. I want Florida to lose today. And not just because I hate Florida. I want them to go back to being a perennial underachiever.
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:12 pm to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
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Wrong bc if we are both fighting over the last spot the head to head is the default tie breaker
ATTENTION Reality Tiger . How does he know this?
Is Penn State aware of this default tie breaker
Posted on 8/24/19 at 1:13 pm to clamdip
Yes, if lsu is 11-1 and say Oregon is 11-1 with a dog shite schedule,. Yes absolutely another top 5 win could put us over the top for the last playoff spot. You disagree?
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