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re: To those excited about LSU's #3 recruiting ranking

Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:48 pm to
I see us adding a couple of more 5 stars and a few 4 stars-average will go up much higher
Posted by Tmcnair96
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 5:51 pm
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:53 pm to
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If team rankings don't mean anything, then neither do individual rankings. One follows the other.

No, dummy. This is my point.

Ranking classes the way they do, a team with 25 3 stars can be ranked ahead of a team with 15 4 stars and a couple 3 stars.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

I see us adding a couple of more 5 stars and a few 4 stars-average will go up much higher

Quite possible, excited to see the outcome. I definitely think some of our 4 stars could be bumped up a bit.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6070 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 5:54 pm to
This really is the point.
The average player score is much more telling and accurate.

It’s amazing how many fans are so quick to demand silence and happiness from anyone making a VALID point about this class.

It’s been a ioooong time since I saw LSU fans celebrate commitments just on the basis of the commitment and not the quality of the commitment...times they are a changin. Or perhaps already changed enough to the point of celebrating a coach of this caliber’s most mediocre accomplishments.

I find your info to be the more relevant info, as opposed to #3 class without looking deeper.

These offers and consequent commitments do have me concerned for our ability to win SEC championships.

Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1136 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:00 pm to
No other team has a kicker and long snapper figured in their average. Why don’t you calculate the average of the top 10 for each class
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8778 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:02 pm to
In 2016, we ended up with one of the best averages we’ve ever had but the #7 class and this argument didn’t fly at all funny how people spin the narrative to have this progress and ranking appear to suck
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6835 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:03 pm to
Mr bubbles are you
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:08 pm to
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No, dummy. This is my point.

Ranking classes the way they do, a team with 25 3 stars can be ranked ahead of a team with 15 4 stars and a couple 3 stars.


Backatcha dummy. My point is if you attack team rankings, then you should also attack individual rankings.

A three star now might become a five star later, and vice versa.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30015 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:14 pm to
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This really is the point. The average player score is much more telling and accurate.


Take away the kicker and long snapper and it’s 91.1 so the thread is irrelevant
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37526 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:15 pm to
Kirby smart is putting in freaking work son
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:16 pm to
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The average player score is much more telling and accurate.

Not completely. We have a kicker that on some services is the #2 kicker in the country but bc he's a kicker, he's a 2 star. Same goes with the LS commit who is a 2 star. We have the #6 OC in the country and he's a mid 3 star. If he's an OG #6 he would be a mid 4 star. So all 3 players are a drag on the rating, but they fill positions of need and provide value. That being said we have 2 5 stars (1 of 3 teams with 2 or more) and 6 4 stars. At CB they got commits from some 3 stars even though they likely could have locked up a high 4 star player this weekend, but the coaches actually liked the others better. I suppose Aranda, Raymond and Busch know what they want.

At the end of the day the question is did you meet your team needs and get quality players that will make the team better. I like what I've seen so far, but there are some big fish still out there so it's still a long way to go. I would also expect some players to drop off and others to take their place. The good news is in most cases it looks like we have a shot at upgrades for those that drop. We shall see.
Posted by Haughtonboy
kansas
Member since Nov 2011
1753 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:17 pm to
I know I hate em.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10720 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:19 pm to
We will see how it plays out on the field. I’m cautiously optimistic.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Not completely. We have a kicker that on some services is the #2 kicker in the country but bc he's a kicker, he's a 2 star. Same goes with the LS commit who is a 2 star. We have the #6 OC in the country and he's a mid 3 star. If he's an OG #6 he would be a mid 4 star. So all 3 players are a drag on the rating, but they fill positions of need and provide value.

I agree with this 100%. That's why I said I think team needs should be factored into class rankings. If it was based on average player rating and team needs, recruiting rankings would be much more accurate. Obviously, that's assuming the player ratings are accurate as well - so you would want to use a composite player rating.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 6:21 pm
Posted by NamariTiger
Flower Mound, Texas
Member since Jun 2014
17746 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:27 pm to
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I care about filling needs and the particular talent we place in those needs. Recruiting rankings mean very little when it's said and done. Right now, they mean NOTHING


Like the elite talent we just added at cornerback which we desperately need ? Shut up and quit bitching .
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 6:28 pm
Posted by safetyman
Member since Jun 2011
11108 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:35 pm to
Lol and Les was fricking horrible the last few years over here. frick you plugs miserable fricks
Posted by DeplorableTigerFan
St. Louis
Member since Nov 2016
373 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:45 pm to
Amazing some of you are never ever happy.

Just roll with it dude
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Rank Team Average Player Rating 


Those average ratings are going to change when teams fill out their classes to 25 players. This isn't a top 3 class but I'm sure it will be top 10
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9509 posts
Posted on 6/24/18 at 7:16 pm to
Overall talent at LSU has been fine for years.

Unbalanced talent has been a bigger issue. Voids in the trenches, at times at Lber, and poor QB recruiting/development have held LSU back.

LSU has gotten better in all 3 areas in past 2 years. Missing completely at CB last year has been O’s biggest slip up to date in recruiting. That criticism is valid, but he’s addressing it.
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