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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:18 am to Solo Cam
quote:The read option sets up nearly identical in the backfield as the RPO so this criticism is not warranted.
RPO doesn’t mean the QB runs.
He does allow us to run read options though
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:18 am to P bean
The surest sign that you’ve something credible and smart is when the idiots on this board downvote you to hell.
Also check your phone.
Also check your phone.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:19 am to LSU Fan 90812
He doesnt know wtf a read option is
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:20 am to P bean
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The rant arguing Joe Brady NOT running RPO’s but read options is the rant at its finest.
Not one person said that.
You don’t know the difference between the 2.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:20 am to Solo Cam
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God dammit for the 1000 time. RPO doesn’t mean the QB runs.
He does allow us to run read options though
Keep using your fricking strict interpretation of a definition a-hole. We knew what we saw last season with a variation of the offense. Call it what you want, Brennan is ZERO THREAT TO RUN AND THAT LIMITS THE OFFENSE. No RB draws are possible even. That limits the draws and screens. Last season al we heard was having to defend 5. Now you only have to defend 4.
BTW - I’ve stated that Brennan needs to continue to be the QB so this isn’t about an open competition.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:22 am to Tiger1988
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Brennan is ZERO THREAT TO RUN
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No WB draws are possible even. That limits the draws and screens.
Wait what?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:25 am to P bean
TJ is not a running threat lol
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:25 am to P bean
The Joe Brady article you linked (which still has inaccuracies, but that’s the talking heads for you) explains a completely different offensive concept than Finley and LSU ran last night. Sure, both plays can be called an “RPO” but Finley did not run any triple option RPOs last night.
He did not pull the football from the mesh by reading a C gap defender, sprint out of the pocket, and the read a low hole defender to decide whether to throw a screen or run. The article you linked is explaining that play, which I still don’t remember seeing LSU run last season. Honestly don’t know and don’t care if Carolina is running it this season.
He did not pull the football from the mesh by reading a C gap defender, sprint out of the pocket, and the read a low hole defender to decide whether to throw a screen or run. The article you linked is explaining that play, which I still don’t remember seeing LSU run last season. Honestly don’t know and don’t care if Carolina is running it this season.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:25 am to P bean
quote:Did I ever say we run the wishbone?
Naw son. We are not army/navy or Ga Tech
quote:Those plays you are thinking about were read options. He did also run RPO’s, but not the plays where he ran. So yes LSU does run RPO’s, but the plays where Finley kept it and ran were designed run plays.
did you not see Joey B last season????? He
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:26 am to P bean
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Lol, uhh RPO means “Run Pass Optio.”
Read options, and also that pop pass we hit repeatedly.
Brennan isnt running those plays.
Surely, you aren’t this dumb. It’s a joke, right?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:30 am to Peepdip
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Those plays you are thinking about were read options. He did also run RPO’s, but not the plays where he ran. So yes LSU does run RPO’s, but the plays where Finley kept it and ran were designed run plays.
You realize there's no way to say that 100% without actually knowing the playcall, right?
If it's an RPO playcall and the "Pass Option" part doesn't happen....
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:31 am to P bean
Oof this thread. Regardless of the debate, I don't think Finley's running threat opened up anything as far as the defense having to respect him. He ran for 24 yards on 8 carries, he's barely any kind of threat as a runner.
Also I think Burrow's running gets misinterpreted by some. Yeah he was pretty good at it here and there, but the running game in general was open because we had #1 overall pick at QB and a juggernaut passing game.
Also I think Burrow's running gets misinterpreted by some. Yeah he was pretty good at it here and there, but the running game in general was open because we had #1 overall pick at QB and a juggernaut passing game.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:33 am to Tigerpride18
I assure you he does. And his point about Burrow being a threat to run a draw or scramble made a big difference with freezing the defenses last year. it gave them one more thing to think about every play and i dont know if he ran for anything other than first downs. it also allowed them to fix their run defense in a single direction.
RPO. Can mean run, pass OR QB decides in the flow of the play after the initial reads. The number of times burrow ran a delay draw after faking a handoff, looking into defensive backfield and seeing them turn and run are too plentiful to count.
Y all are literally arguing about adjacent principles incorporated into philosophies. For instance, it is possible to run a zone read with a pass option.
Regardless, the point remains that under Brennan the offense though successful was more stilted, feast or famine and traditional. We either hit big plays, but we’re unable to convert short yardage or on third downs consistently- a thing we did easily last year for the exact reasons PBean said.
RPO. Can mean run, pass OR QB decides in the flow of the play after the initial reads. The number of times burrow ran a delay draw after faking a handoff, looking into defensive backfield and seeing them turn and run are too plentiful to count.
Y all are literally arguing about adjacent principles incorporated into philosophies. For instance, it is possible to run a zone read with a pass option.
Regardless, the point remains that under Brennan the offense though successful was more stilted, feast or famine and traditional. We either hit big plays, but we’re unable to convert short yardage or on third downs consistently- a thing we did easily last year for the exact reasons PBean said.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:39 am to P bean
The RPO has nothing to do with a dual-threat quarterback. The RPO is designed to give the QB the "OPTION" to hand it off to a "RUNNING" back or "PASS" it to a receiver. If your argument is that Finley is a dual-threat quarterback and Brennan is not - that's a different argument.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:40 am to LSU Fan 90812
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assure you he does
No, he definitely doesn’t.
He very clearly labeled the TJ Finley runs last night as RPO’s. Lol
And argued for 4 pages about it.
He is wrong & you are wrong
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:42 am to P bean
Amazes me how an argument can be carried on by some that have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. See the link below explaining how the RPO works, or don't IDGAF!
X'S & O's: Run-Pass Option (RPO) Simplified
X'S & O's: Run-Pass Option (RPO) Simplified
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:43 am to P bean
Jesus Christ people really don’t know what an RPO is!!
Tom Brady can run an RPO. But he can’t run a Zone Read. Does that make sense?
Tom Brady can run an RPO. But he can’t run a Zone Read. Does that make sense?
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 10:47 am
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:44 am to Lester Earl
I think his argument that a dual threat qb unlocks a RPO offense in a way that felt locked under Brennan.
I only read his initial post.
I only read his initial post.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:44 am to madddoggydawg
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The read option sets up nearly identical in the backfield as the RPO so this criticism is not warranted.
Lol, right.
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The surest sign that you’ve something credible and smart is when the idiots on this board downvote you to hell. Also check your phone.
Yup. I did, just called Mom.
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