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re: Time to kill a myth that was once again created on the Rant

Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:39 am to
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This is how I think it went down, O told Alleva he could bring in Kiffin and when that fell through he made O hire the "hot commodity" in Canada.


I thought this was common knowledge by now.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:47 am to
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thought this was common knowledge by now


So the current state of the offense can be laid directly at Alleva's feet.

I can remember Alleva fricking over Les one time too on a coordinator. It may have been when Les promoted Stud.
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:49 am to
Holy shite you are Reetarded.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14390 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:49 am to
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I can remember Alleva fricking over Les one time too on a coordinator. It may have been when Les promoted Stud.


Alleva wanted Cameron gone and the offense changed. Les fought to keep Cameron, but agreed to change the offense. Nothing changed and Les got fired a few games into the season.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:58 am to
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Alleva wanted Cameron gone and the offense changed. Les fought to keep Cameron, but agreed to change the offense. Nothing changed and Les got fired a few games into the season.




FACT................
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38006 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Tiger Ree


It's like you reached the end of your quest to be the most biased fan and misguided fan on this website and then just kept going.

Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Alleva wanted Cameron gone and the offense changed. Les fought to keep Cameron, but agreed to change the offense. Nothing changed and Les got fired a few games into the season


I thought he screwed Les over before that too with another coordinator.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:05 pm to
those stats actually contradict your position.
the 3 Ls are the highest opponent TOP for all the games.
one could more accurately state that we lose all games where the opponent TOP exceeds 29 minutes.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Alleva wanted Cameron gone and the offense changed. Les fought to keep Cameron, but agreed to change the offense. Nothing changed and Les got fired a few games into the season.


Well, he was fired because he lost.

If we were 4-0 after Auburn is he still getting fired if he was running the same offense?

Alleva obviously wanted to do it the previous season but cowered to public pressure. Auburn was the best time he could strike, when public support was at an all time low, and he did it.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:08 pm to
“Alleva”

And here we are almost 3 yrs later with even a worse O than the one making Joe unhappy.

Maybe Joe needs to keep his nose out of things it appears he knows little about.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:11 pm to
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Alleva obviously wanted to do it the previous season but cowered to public pressure. Auburn was the best time he could strike, when public support was at an all time low, and he did it.


If Miles had a PR staff pressuring media not to be critical and constantly blaming anything but Cam, our offense would still suck.



Oh wait..
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14390 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:46 pm to
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Well, he was fired because he lost.


If you're going to go against your boss, you better damn sure be right and provide results.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14390 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:48 pm to
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“Alleva” And here we are almost 3 yrs later with even a worse O than the one making Joe unhappy. Maybe Joe needs to keep his nose out of things it appears he knows little about.


2018 was not a talented offense, despite the Rant's protest otherwise. Next year's offense needs to produce much more, and I suspect that they will.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19042 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:49 pm to
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So the current state of the offense can be laid directly at Alleva's feet.


Did Alleva choose Ensminger? Not trying to sling shite, just don’t understand what you mean.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:07 pm to
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If you're going to go against your boss, you better damn sure be right and provide results.



I guess, but the boss decided that the best way to fix the offense was to hire a D-line coach, who then hires an OC who hasn't run his own offense in more than 20 years.

You'll excuse me if I have more faith in Miles than Alleva to run things.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14390 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:20 pm to
I'm not defending Alleva, but he thought he was getting Kiffin as OC. His grand vision wasn't to "fix the offense by hiring a DL coach".

I like Miles, a lot, and will be pulling for him at KU; but, I think Kansas made a big mistake by hiring him. They need a young upstart coach. Miles' success at LSU was largely based on the talent he was able to recruit, not his coaching. He won't be able to attract top talent to KU.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
18467 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 3:48 pm to
If Orgeron and Alleva spent as much time concentrating on winning championships as they do paying con men and bullshite artists like the OP to sling propaganda ... we’d have another one or two crystal footballs in the trophy case.
Posted by BananaHammock
Member since Aug 2011
13150 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 3:58 pm to
Anyone else find it peculiar that Tiger Reetard started this thread, ate shite in it by revealing he’s not only stupid, but also racist, then doesn’t come back here to the scene of the crime/troll to take his licks?

He’s been active in other threads, trying his best to throw off his Dereck Ponamsky scent (stench).
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Anyone else find it peculiar that Tiger Reetard started this thread, ate shite in it by revealing he's not only stupid, but also racist, then doesn't come back here to the scene of the crime/troll to take his licks?


It's the ree way. He starts some God awful thread like this one, gets bitch slapped early on in it, disappears into the night, and leaves it up to one of his fellow o-supporters to try and clean up his mess.

It appears bencoleman drew the short straw this time around and had to be the sacrificial lamb for this thread.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 4:54 pm to
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Anyone else find it peculiar that Tiger Reetard started this thread, ate shite in it by revealing he’s not only stupid, but also racist, then doesn’t come back here to the scene of the crime/troll to take his licks?


This is the case in 90% of his threads.
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