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re: Time to claim 1908
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:21 pm to Islandboy777
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:21 pm to Islandboy777
My freshman year
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:57 pm to Islandboy777
#LSUHas5
Posted on 10/15/23 at 9:25 pm to Islandboy777
Without a doubt - we need to claim it
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:39 am to Islandboy777
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Is any one really pushing it? Maybe we need to go viral with it
I Agree ... go to the Athletic dept. and inform them you're going to organize a Group who will go to several media sources about this story. Its time to claim our championship... The NCAA even recognizes it. Quit being a Snob LSU.
Get a petition signed , Do it at The remaining Games this year!!
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:43 am to MikeTheTiger71
I have now seen peak football transitive property
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:42 pm to OKBoomerSooner
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I have now seen peak football transitive property
Unfortunately, that was all the connections Southern teams had to other regions that year. None of them suggest they could compete with the powers in the Midwest or Northeast. The transitive property only breaks down when there are contradictory results. There are no contradictions here.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:49 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Mike LSU tried hard to play Michigan in New Orleans in 1908.
Joe Curtis head coach of Tulane warned Michigan's coach Yost not to play LSU due to its speed on the field.
Joe saw LSU play Texas A&M and Haskell and Haskell is the key along with Mayhew to find out how good the 1908 team was at its time.
Mayhew is a track and field man and made 2nd team All American, he was easily beat in a foot race by Doc and Mike Lally, these were not close races. Coach Mayhew also made All American at halfback at Brown.
Haskell game is where Ty Cobb lost $3000.00 betting on Haskell to win. To say the least he was mad, he had just got back from Japan with his wife (if I remember correct, I do have copies of the articles).
Joe Curtis head coach of Tulane warned Michigan's coach Yost not to play LSU due to its speed on the field.
Joe saw LSU play Texas A&M and Haskell and Haskell is the key along with Mayhew to find out how good the 1908 team was at its time.
Mayhew is a track and field man and made 2nd team All American, he was easily beat in a foot race by Doc and Mike Lally, these were not close races. Coach Mayhew also made All American at halfback at Brown.
Haskell game is where Ty Cobb lost $3000.00 betting on Haskell to win. To say the least he was mad, he had just got back from Japan with his wife (if I remember correct, I do have copies of the articles).
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:21 pm to TigerLifer18
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The NCAA recognizes LSU with 5, it’s ridiculous LSU doesn’t do the same.
This
If we were Bama we could say 8 and be right
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:41 pm to tigger1
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Haskell game is where Ty Cobb lost $3000.00 betting on Haskell to win. To say the least he was mad, he had just got back from Japan with his wife (if I remember correct, I do have copies of the articles).
Haskell had years as a legitimate program, but 1908 wasn’t one of those. They went 3-5-1 with 2 of the wins over Drury and St Mary’s (Kansas) and the tie against Creighton. They also lost to Washburn. Their only other win was over a Southern team: Texas A&M. A&M for their part was only 3-5 with 2 of the wins over non-major teams Trinity (TX) and Southwestern (TX). They did beat TCU who was 6-3, but had 4 wins over non-major teams and 2 over Baylor. Baylor played a more legitimate schedule but was only 3-5, including an 89-0 loss to LSU. They beat A&M and TCU (going 1-2 against TCU) along with Tulane (1-1 against them). Tulane was the only team downstream from Haskell with a win against a team outside of Texas or Louisiana with wins over Ole Miss, Miss St and Washington (MO) on the way to 7-1 (before weaseling out of the LSU game.) Ole Miss only beat 3 non-majors (and lost to Rhodes.) Miss St beat only Ole Miss and 2 non-majors (but lost to USL.) Washington (MO) was barely major going 4-0-1 against non-major teams on 0-4 against majors. That’s where things dead end downstream from Haskell. Ty Cobb clearly was judging Haskell based on prior Haskell squads, not the one they fielded in 1908.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:46 pm to Islandboy777
We should claim it proudly
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:09 pm to Kato
The SIAA upon completion of the 1908 season conducted an investigation based on allegations from Tulane that LSU was paying its players. The investigation cleared the LSU tigers from any wrongdoing, but by the time the investigation was completed the SIAA conference schools elected Auburn as the Champion even though the Tigers were 10-0 and beat Auburn during the season.
Lots of interesting things from the 1908 team. Didn’t know that the Heisman trophy was retroed to Doc Fenton. The first modern day award was given in 1935.
Lots of interesting things from the 1908 team. Didn’t know that the Heisman trophy was retroed to Doc Fenton. The first modern day award was given in 1935.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:17 pm to Islandboy777
Someone needs to figure out a way to have a gold flag made with “1908” on it then fashion some sort of pole next to the 1958 flag and unveil the 1908 title flag at the next game. 
At least it would get people asking why not!
At least it would get people asking why not!
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:44 am to tigger1
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Haskell game is where Ty Cobb lost $3000.00 betting on Haskell to win
He bet money on this guy?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:57 am to MikeTheTiger71
Haskell links to the Midwest and Northeastern teams.
I have files on all the teams and links.
I have files on all the teams and links.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:07 am
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:22 am to BLD
The funny thing on Tulane turning in LSU, is Tulane is not a member of the SIAA and is playing a twice banned player and another player banned also.
Tulane is also playing a number of grads from places like Vanderbilt.
Looking into the teams of 1908 era, everyone is playing grads of other schools, Michigan is playing a player that played for 2 other schools and he played with Wingard at Susquehanna.
Doc and Lally played at a perp school that does not become a college until years later. That school miss ID Doc in a photograph and I had them change it and pointed out Lally in it.
Texas A&M is playing a Carlisle player who lettered the year before at Carlisle, which means he has to sit a year.
This goes on and on for every team I have looked into.
The Blacksmith's (Miss. St.) are using northern players.
The best nickname of the era is the Rats (Florida).
Tulane is also playing a number of grads from places like Vanderbilt.
Looking into the teams of 1908 era, everyone is playing grads of other schools, Michigan is playing a player that played for 2 other schools and he played with Wingard at Susquehanna.
Doc and Lally played at a perp school that does not become a college until years later. That school miss ID Doc in a photograph and I had them change it and pointed out Lally in it.
Texas A&M is playing a Carlisle player who lettered the year before at Carlisle, which means he has to sit a year.
This goes on and on for every team I have looked into.
The Blacksmith's (Miss. St.) are using northern players.
The best nickname of the era is the Rats (Florida).
Posted on 10/17/23 at 6:54 am to Samso
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This is something A&M people do.
And Alabama, USC, etc.
Who then use that history as a recruiting tool.
FWIW, LSU could also claim a few more titles as well, not just 1908.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:08 am to tigger1
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Haskell links to the Midwest and Northeastern teams.
Their only links to those regions in 1908 are wins over non-majors (Drury and St Mary (KS)), a tie with non-major Creighton, and losses to Nebraska and non-major Washburn. None of those ties would establish LSU on an even playing field with the top teams in the Midwest and Northeast. In other years it would have been a substantial victory. That year it was not.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:15 am to Islandboy777
We're not Bama
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:55 am to Islandboy777
It would be lame to claim it right now. The time to claim it was after winning a championship, hang both banners. if you claim it now in the middle of a mediocre season and you look like Ole miss.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:21 pm to HammerheadLincoln
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There's no logical reason why we don't claim it. I don't get it.
The 'logical reason' we can't is the rumor/accusation that We recruited a couple of pro football players from the Midwest to play for LSU. They apparently were "recognized" at some point and the accusations began.
Could be all BS but that's the 'logical reason' and that practice wasn't that uncommon in a time when pro players didn't make much money at all.
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