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re: Tim Brando: "Alabama has Pure Playoff Privilege"

Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10444 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

It’s not wrong to use the “eye test”


Please define "eye test".

Thanks.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
18176 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:57 pm to
He’s right. But he shouldn’t have to be saying those things. Playoff Privilege is real and is hurting the sport of football.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30037 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:59 pm to
it is broken....They never came out what exactly they look for when picking top 4...is it most deserving? is it best record? is it quality wins? Resume? Conf Champ? quality loses? there is no parameter for there selection. if they go by any of these scenarios it changes week to week on which they will follow

they use whatever narrative they need to to justify putting the teams in that they predetermined they want in regardless of the team earning that right
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30022 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:59 pm to
What the hell does the eye test even mean lol

Auburn gave us a tougher game than bama so are they one of the 4 best teams
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21007 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:03 pm to
What you are seeing is why they tried to create the BCS in the first place. Now we are back to it does not matter what you do on the field as long as you look good doing it.

Oh well. I am still enjoying how hard the Tigers are playing.

quote:

It’s not wrong to use the “eye test”


This is the worse criteria I have ever heard in the media because the eye test changes every week so that commentators can try to steer the match ups they want to see in the playoff.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 2:05 pm
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9912 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

they use whatever narrative they need to to justify putting the teams in that they predetermined they want in regardless of the team earning that right


That’s why a points system needs to be used so there is no committee needed to vote on any of this. Use something in the open where standards are even for everyone. The system needs to be like a guideline and stick to it. Bama always has had that privilege regardless of what they do. Losing at home should have some weight as to rankings also. Look at point spreads when they are put out to public. Home team always gets that advantage. May not be favored but it’s figured in the spread. Same for college football. Why should a team that doesn’t even play in their conference title game get a shot or is rewarded because they are Bama?
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:08 pm to
Go to 8 and all this crap is irrelevant
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
762 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Bring back the BCS and take 4


Bring back the real old system with conference/ bowl tie ins.
That makes bowls relevant again, brings in some excellent matchups that wouldn’t occur otherwise, and infuse more TV money and fan interest.
After all that, apply BCS formula. Take top 2 teams and play a plus 1 second weekend in January. (or top 4 and play a plus 2, but really all it would take is 1, as the old bowl matchups would help settle a lot).
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

They never came out what exactly they look for when picking top 4...is it most deserving? is it best record? is it quality wins? Resume? Conf Champ? quality loses? there is no parameter for there selection


They came out with it. They said resume. But when you look at their voting, it says eye test. So they’re liars.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10983 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:31 pm to
I say this: Awbarn, step up and put the red team out of its misery why don't cha?...
Posted by tygerphan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2009
3258 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:37 pm to
Their criteria is clear - which four make us the most money?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:37 pm to
This is precisely why I actually LIKED the old BCS system. It used several different computer polls which weighted different things and offset the bias of the human polls.

Now, we have a committee that has no set parameters that we know of that they go by.

I know this, though, with only four spots available, no non-conference champion should be let in that has already lost to a conference champ that IS in the playoff.
Posted by Providential Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
410 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:44 pm to
Tell him he's a helluva lot better than Barnhart, Finebaum, and the rest of the SEC Dominant Media Culture!
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14182 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Same for college football. Why should a team that doesn’t even play in their conference title game get a shot or is rewarded because they are Bama?


If the committee puts Bama in over a 12-1 conference champ, then they are sending 2 messages, both of which are bad for college football in general, not just bad for LSU.

First, they are basically saying that conference championship games are irrelevant. If a team isn't rewarded for having to play and win an extra game, then why play it?

Second, Bama being Bama carries more weight than scheduling a bunch of cupcakes, failing to beat a single team ranked in the top 25, and losing at home to the only team of any significance you've played.

Bottom line is that it invalidates everything a team has done during the regular season, just because they don't pass the "eye test" and Bama's "pedigree" is enough to give them extra points, despite losing the "win or no playoff" game at home.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4724 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:52 pm to
I don’t get the “expand the playoff argument. Make the conference championships round one. Makes no sense that a team without winning their division can play for the national championship.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64666 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 2:55 pm to
He gots moxie.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14182 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

I don’t get the “expand the playoff argument. Make the conference championships round one. Makes no sense that a team without winning their division can play for the national championship.


If the CFP expands to 8 teams, and there aren't some VERY clear guidelines as to how teams are chosen, i.e. champs of the 5 power conferences are automatically in and other 3 teams are chosen based upon SOS, and other concrete factors (no eye test), then Bama will get in EVERY year just because they're Bama.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11070 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:08 pm to
do we like Brando now?
Posted by Flynn2Bryd
Member since Sep 2015
606 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:10 pm to
couldnt have said it better
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23457 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:20 pm to
Assuming things remain as they are, Alabama will not only not win the SEC Championship - they won't even play in it. Sorry, but life's tough and Bama has no business being in the NC4 under those circumstances.
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