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re: Tiger Band thread. How's the new director? How are the numbers looking?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 5:53 pm to Smalls
Posted on 7/21/19 at 5:53 pm to Smalls
Pregame is not charted for 325. When you're at a home game, you'll see the alternates in the stands. If my memory is correct, pregame is written for 280 or 285. After preseason cuts were made and we had our 325 they would have another pregame cut to select who was in pregame for the season.
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Posted on 7/21/19 at 6:47 pm to Zuave4Ever
You, obviously.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 6:57 pm to Smalls
quote:I'm gonna go out on a limb because I don't know how it is now. But when I was in Tiger Band (in the early 90's), I can tell you that Frank Wickes preached, preached, preached for the horns to play with power. He did it with pregame (started out every practice with a pregame run). He did it with the halftime shows. When we did the practice run march from the Greek Theater to Tiger Stadium in the summer, and then into the stands - we played all the songs in the stadium. And I specifically remember him stopping us several times and calling out sections and/or members for sounding like a bunch of "weenies".
the band to sound like it used to sound
I'm gonna say that this aspect of it is lacking, in addition to the less brass. At one time, we had the best band in the SEC. I remember getting lined up to march out of the swamp, and a lady from Florida told me, "y'all's football team ain't too good, but y'all are the best band in the SEC!" It's sad that this isn't even the case anymore.
LSU needs to go out and hire another Frank Wickes. Quit with the bargain basement promoting from within hires. Go steal a big name school's band director. That's what they did with Frank Wickes. He came from Florida.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:26 pm to TigerBand2007
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Pregame is not charted for 325. When you're at a home game, you'll see the alternates in the stands. If my memory is correct, pregame is written for 280 or 285. After preseason cuts were made and we had our 325 they would have another pregame cut to select who was in pregame for the season.
Yup. This is correct information.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:33 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Georgia and Auburn both have much better bands than LSU. It wasn’t always this way. They’ve caught up to us and passed us since Wickes and Moorhouse left.
I haven't seen Georgia lately but when I went to the LSU / Auburn game two years ago, the Auburn band sounded and looked like Tiger Band used to. LSU should hire Spurlin. Or maybe Hanna. I haven't seen Texas march since 2002, though.
LSU looks and sounds like a poorly rehearsed high school band these days, at least based on the videos the band staff puts out. I'm not saying that to disparage current or recent members. I know how incredible the Tiger Band experience is and how much work it takes. But it's clear that the band leadership (I'd argue under King AND Llinas) just wasn't producing drill that was well executed (whatever the style) or sound that knocked your socks off (especially now).
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:34 pm to RealityTiger
I don’t know Jack about any of this with the band other than they clearly are not up to traditional LSU standards. I gotta believe that Scott Woodward will flex his muscle and get the band back on track.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 7:59 pm to TigerBand2007
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Pregame is not charted for 325. When you're at a home game, you'll see the alternates in the stands. If my memory is correct, pregame is written for 280 or 285. After preseason cuts were made and we had our 325 they would have another pregame cut to select who was in pregame for the season.
7 flanks of 32 bandsmen (224), 6 of those have 3 golden girls (18), 2 flanks of 11 color guard (22), one drum major, for a grand total of 265 by my count. Back when I was in TB, most of the cuts were in the woodwinds. They tried very hard to fill the first two flanks entirely with trumpets.
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This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:31 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Irish,
You have a lot of facts. Are you in the band business?
You have a lot of facts. Are you in the band business?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 8:38 pm to Sir Fury
If that video is from 2017, isn’t that the first year that the band had fewer numbers?
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:21 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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If that video is from 2017, isn’t that the first year that the band had fewer numbers?
I just checked my overhead photo from 1999. It’s the same number of flanks. We had 325 total members back then. They may have added an 8th front after 2002. But if they did, I’m not aware of it. If so, you’d likely see a double flank on one side of the U, just like there is on the L.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 7/21/19 at 11:07 pm to Sir Fury
I was in 90/91 and we were using the old pregame drill with the last line filling in the S to finish LSU
My time there was glorious and I don’t see or hear any drop off over the last thirty years
I am tired of Irish shitting on the band, he should STFU
My time there was glorious and I don’t see or hear any drop off over the last thirty years
I am tired of Irish shitting on the band, he should STFU
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:00 am to johnfredlsu
There are several really good options out there that would get Tigerband back to its traditions, including featuring the Golden Girls. Dr Spurlin at Auburn is a great choice, I was in the LSU Wind Ensemble with him, under the direction of Wickes. There are also two former LSU drum majors who have their doctorates in music who are currently collegiate band directors. I went to LSU with both of them. We have options, but I'm not sure why they aren't being explored.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:02 am to RealityTiger
This is accurate. King used to tell us to "scare small babies" when we weren't using enough power. There used to he a real emphasis on sound and the traditions of the program.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:49 am to TigerBand2007
Right. You don't get that anymore. It sounds like a 300 piece high school band. Used to sound like a college band that had a pair.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:01 am to supatigah
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I was in 90/91
Why were you only in for two years if it was so "glorious?
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I don’t see or hear any drop off over the last thirty years
The band got "much" better after you left. The band was not at 325 in those years and the instrumentation was not great. After you departed, they had increased numbers to the point where they were cutting people at band camp in order to get down to 325. With larger numbers to choose from comes better quality! The band was not bad in the early 90's, it was just better in the 2000's.
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I am tired of Irish shitting on the band
I don't. I am critical of their leadership and administration. The students in the band are amazing. They have always been amazing and will always be amazing. These students deserve better.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 1:17 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Under King’s regime they raised enough money to pay for half of the new Tiger Band Hall, he secured the deal for the State Senate would fund the other half.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 1:26 pm to TigerBand2007
You are forgetting the administration will not allow anyone who is not compliant with the dean’s creative accounting methods. He has exactly who he wants in there. It’s not about music. It’s the cash cow.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 1:31 pm to tigersports1925
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You are forgetting the administration will not allow anyone who is not compliant with the dean’s creative accounting methods. He has exactly who he wants in there. It’s not about music. It’s the cash cow.
You nailed it. The current administration doesn't give a damn. They just want to steal the money that's supposed to be earmarked for Tiger Band. As long as the band remains under the control of the School of Music, you can expect more of what we've been seeing since King left...lower numbers, fewer if any Golden Girl features, fewer brass and more woodwinds equaling a less powerful sound, and more stick figure and word spell out halftime shows.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 1:47 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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you can expect more of what we've been seeing since King left...lower numbers, fewer if any Golden Girl features, fewer brass and more woodwinds equaling a less powerful sound, and more stick figure and word spell out halftime shows.
1) Kelvin Jones said this to the Advocate in a piece published a couple days ago:
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How many members will the band be fielding this year, including auxiliary?
The Tiger Band will field the same 325 members. This year, in particular, has been a rough one because we had a record number of students come to our preseason camp to audition for the band but we have to cap it at 325 members, including auxiliary units, so turning away over 100 students is never easy.
Either he is lying or you (and everyone else) are perpetuating a myth about the current numbers being low.
2) The whole "stick figure" and "word" thing is what the people want. This isn't 1992 any more. The crowd who is still there at halftime is much more into the stuff like this and just isn't entertained by all the drill stuff. I can't tell you how many times there have been threads on this board bitching about how boring the halftime shows were. "But muh Latin Flair" rabble rabble rabble. So while I am sure the drill shows were a way for the band folks to show off to each other, they just became very bland for the people that they are performing for.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 1:49 pm
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