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re: Tiger Band thread. How's the new director? How are the numbers looking?

Posted on 7/20/19 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 7:32 pm to
Sound is paramount for a college marching band.

Everyone knows that brass = power in a marching band. Why would they deliberately reduce the number of brass instruments? That makes no sense.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4562 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 7:59 pm to
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To be fair, aren't there fewer brass now? I remember when I was younger the band had what, maybe close to 32 tubas? It's nowhere near that now. It also looks like the rest of the brass sections have decreased. The band sure isn't as loud as it used to be.


I don’t recall them ever having 32 sousaphones. When I was in TB, they want 24. Our trumpet section was typically in the mid-50’s to mid-60’s.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 8:12 pm to
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brass from 178 to 130


So, what's up with that?
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:16 pm to
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Because with Llinas at the helm, it looked as close to the Linda days as it ever has.

You are stoned, drunk, etc. Llinas drill and music is nothing like the shows of Wickes, Moorhouse & King. Llinas shows were actually more like the Bill Swor era except not executed as well. Llinas was attempting "pagentry." Wickes, Moorhouse & King were doing corps-style drill.
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What exactly would you like the Tiger Band to look like?

Simple answer.....a good college band (like Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, etc.).
Please stop posting if you don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:20 pm to
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But the quality of sound is second to none.

Negative. The simple fact is that under King (and maybe later Moorhouse), the band was 325 with a large contingent of brass. And, they were cutting about 100 in order to get down to 325. Now, they are taking "anyone" who can spell their name (and still don't have 325). All of this equals less talent. Fact.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 11:25 pm to
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brass from 178 to 130


So, what's up with that?


Students coming from good high school bands are not interested in running around the field making stick figures and spelling words. Especially if it is being performed poorly (not even close to the level of Ohio State). The golden girl audition numbers are down probably because they are not featured as they were under Wickes, Moorhouse & King.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10155 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 6:57 am to
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Llinas drill and music is nothing like the shows of Wickes, Moorhouse & King.


You’re still knighting for King?

The man was horrible. There’s a reason he was hired by a high school in Florida
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:35 am to
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You’re still knighting for King?

The man was horrible.

Well....He was named "band director of the year" by a national bandmasters fraternity. The LSU band under his direction was named "top 10 college bands in the US." The LSU band had its first-ever (and second) international performance. The LSU band under his direction was turning away over 100 applicants each year (today they can't even get 325 to show up). He secured enough finances for their trip to Ireland so that the trip did not cost the students anything. His band was featured in ESPN - The Magazine. And so on...
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164042 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 9:57 am to
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The man was horrible. There’s a reason he was hired by a high school in Florida

A lawsuit against his former employer had more to do with that.

Roy was a people person. People loved him and he made the band a lot of money. He also knew the evils of the school and music and fought to keep Tiger band independent and protected its traditions. Sure the halftime shows were slipping. But I couldn’t really give two fricks about that. The band was big, loud, and sounded great.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:07 am to
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Sure the halftime shows were slipping. But I couldn’t really give two fricks about that. The band was big, loud, and sounded great.


This. Nobody cares about halftime performances. The bickering about halftime performances is pointless. I seriously doubt high school prospects turn down the band due to the quality of halftime. Halftime is really for the Golden Girls anyway. The magic of being in Tiger Band is playing Pregame on a Saturday night under the lights.

We want 325 strong, the brass numbers back up, and for the band to sound like it used to sound, while executing Pregame flawlessly.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 10:13 am
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:30 am to
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Halftime is really for the Golden Girls anyway.

This. The Damon Talley (and Llinas) version of the Tiger band does not feature the golden girls. That's why their audition numbers are way down! Talley's vision of what a marching band should be is ruining the LSU band.
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:35 am to
For those in the know, is Pregame charted for 325 people, or is it a different number?
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5303 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:47 am to
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Roy was a people person. People loved him 
wasn't he fired from his high school band director job in Florida last fall?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164042 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:51 am to
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wasn't he fired from his high school band director job in Florida last fall?


Because he was too hard on the little snowflakes and their SJW parents complained.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:54 am to
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wasn't he fired from his high school band director job in Florida last fall?

Nope. He resigned. I spoke to him and the reason was a lack of administrative support.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5303 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:59 am to
Resigned amid allegations... that means leave before you're fired.

LINK
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15555 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida


Lol Auburn is the only good college band you listed.
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:48 pm to
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Resigned amid allegations... that means leave before you're fired.

False. Many have spoken to those close to the issue and it was not forced. He resigned because there was not enough administrative support following a false allegation (which he was 100% cleared of). He was very disappointed in how the issue was handled so after he was cleared, he resigned.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Auburn is the only good college band you listed.

Auburn is at the top of the list because their directors are all LSU grads and studied under Wickes, Moorhouse & King. However, it is a fact that Georgia & South Carolina both have far better musicians than LSU. Florida has a very good director (2nd to Auburn). LSU is behind these four bands in show design, musicianship, and leadership.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14157 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 3:23 pm to
Georgia and Auburn both have much better bands than LSU. It wasn’t always this way. They’ve caught up to us and passed us since Wickes and Moorhouse left. South Carolina’s band used to be a joke, as did Florida’s. They went out and hired people who studied under Wickes and Moorhouse, and they’ve both improved greatly. The same can be said of Texas’ band. Dr. Hanna (another LSU product) has done great things in Austin.

Auburn’s band is what Tiger Band used to be.
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