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Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:06 am to
As our young OL develops, he will settle down more in the pocket. He will always trust his legs, but coaching (see BK chewing him) will help him to trust his receivers. His last year at Arizona St Had him running for his life. That has carried over to now.

I expect to see him improve each week.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22206 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:07 am to
He can't do that. I don't think he'll be capable of it. New team, New offense, New coaches it's not all on him, but what we do have is a qb that hasn't thrown a pick and can use his legs. Hopefully he gets better, but he's not gonna be Joe Burrow.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2032 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:11 am to
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I saw the same from the North end zone. Kept having to remind myself, Braden…Joe Burrow he is NOT. He will not throw it on there cuts to space. He waits until someone is wide open. By then, he’s too late delivering the ball, so he starts running. Almost feels like he is afraid of throwing an INT. But his hesitation takes away the teams greatest strength…WRs.


I agree with you. To a T, I have said exactly what you are saying. Playing weak teams we can get away with it and be in games but we will face good teams that he won't run away from and the coverage will be tighter and the offense will be nonexistent.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:13 am to
On a few he didn’t even see the open receiver, whether locked in on one side of field/ receiver or like you said, instead of throwing while receiver was in their break he waited and that gave the DB time to recover and contest the throw. Throwing “on time” is imperative in the SEC. His anticipatory traits aren’t the best and he doesn’t always trust what he sees, which is why you see him double clutch. Right now he’s our best option but it limits the potential of this offense.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
25463 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:23 am to
Daniels has been starting college football for four seasons. What you see is what you get.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39838 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:31 am to
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I don't think this is a indictment of Jayden vs Nuss. We all know that Jayden is the best choice for QB this season. I think that Jayden needs to continue to work on his reads and finding his receivers down field. I think our coaches will continue to work with Jayden on this. He is a very coachable kid and will grow with the offensive as the year goes on


Completely agree
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:36 am to
Yes, and there's a scheme problem with this. They're trying to force something he obviously can't do. There's way to get around it. If you notice, he works best when he has less to process and just needs to immediately make a quick decision or run.

They can make this a one-read offense. Schematically, it can work but you need a smart OC which Denbrock probably isn't the choice here for. You can rotate plays in like cutting the field in half for his vision. Makes it easier to play defense but his running ability is such a threat it might not matter. If you remember Cam Newton was similar but bigger and ran a one-read offense to the NC. They can stack 4 WRs on one side and then 1 on the other side. Design plays specific to players. Lots of stuff schematically they can do.

Kiffin does it great. He adjusts scheme to QB strengths which is why it doesn't matter who he has in front of him. I'm sorry say but Kelly and Denbrock clearly aren't innovative enough to do this. They're forcing something Daniels will not be this season. It looks to me like this is the scheme they will run regardless of who is behind center at LSU. Not a fan of coaches doing this for the reasons you see plaguing Daniels. He's not comfortable in the offense until it's tempo and he has to process less. It's not hard to see. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out but apparently it is for Denbrock/BK.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:51 am to
That’s the reason you see him do better in the hurry up offense, it’s out routes, hooks and simple/single reads. The TD pass to Nabers, he did really well on because that was the called play and receiver. He missed 3 guys last night that were easy, walk in TDs ( they were that wide open ), if he recognizes what he’s seeing.
Missed one in first half, the safety bites down and the receiver is all alone, if he hits him, he walks in the end zone.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
25269 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:54 am to
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I haven’t seen him thrown open a WR in any game this year.

I haven't seen many, but he threw an anticipation pass to Boutte against FSU that should have been a TD, but Boutte never looked for the ball when he turned in his route and the announcers mentioned it.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:05 am to
Daniels is a running back and that is it. Very inaccurate and incapable of reading defenses or throwing people open. A lot of open guys last night and good protection. Just a guy playing QB that isn't good at the position. Unfortunately, it appears that he is the best there is and the lumps will have to be taken.
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1066 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 12:36 pm to
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Bro this Daniels topic....the horse is dead but everyone keeps beating it!

It was obvious from the subject line what the topic was going to be. Why did you click on the link?
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21823 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 1:22 pm to
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Bro this Daniels topic....the horse is dead but everyone keeps beating it!



Except until Daniels develops, the team will only be a middle of the pack SEC team. Sorry that we have higher standards.
He's a bandaid on a team that's undergoing a rebuild. You can say we have "higher standards", but the simple fact is this: we've been under 500 the past 2 years, with MASSIVE roster attrition both seasons. There's a reason why so many transfers and freshmen are starting and getting a lot of playing time, it's because we didn't have anyone to compete at those positions coming back.

The realistic target is 8-4, it was that before the season started. Losing the opener to Fla State put that in jeopardy, since that was one of the games people counted on. Being a "middle of the pack SEC team" would be a win this year.

You can bitch about Daniels not being NFL caliber, but the fact is, he's the only guy on the roster currently able to give us a fighting chance. People are saying give Nussmeier another shot... he had SEVEN possessions against Southern, the biggest creampuff we've played in decades (sorry Jags fans, but it's true). He made 1 play, and it was simply a deep ball that our WR got under.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
19314 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Man wake up.



The QB we may have on the roster to do that is not ready, nor is the O line ready to protect him.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
70666 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:44 pm to
I think I sense a lot of Nuss people pushing this. Could be wrong. Nah.
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