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re: Three P5 QB's had at least 2,800 yards passing, 15 touchdown and 5 or fewer interceptions

Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:08 am to
After watching some very mediocre and terrible QB play for nearly 5 years, Burrow was refreshing in 2018.

Probably the biggest difference between Joe Burrow over the QBs we've had the last decade including Mettenberger, Etling, B.Harris, J.Lee, J.Jefferson....he isn't afraid of getting hit. Even Jamarcus who could absorb hits, really wasn't used to being physical.

I can't think of the last QB that we've had that had no fear of contact. Rohan always seemed like he could throw bombs with guys hanging all over him. Burrow doesn't have any of the arm strength that Mettenberger, Russell, Rohan, or Harris had, but he plays with no fear of contact which is refreshing.

This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 11:10 am
Posted by Ragin Tiger1
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2018
1151 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:11 am to
Well no shite.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
1246 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:19 am to
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Mullen took Aranda to the woodshed? Florida's offense only scored 20 points. Burrow threw 2 picks in the last 2 minutes with one being a pick 6. The defense wasn't great that game but they didn't get "taken to the woodshed" either.

I apologize for the strong words "woodshed" I'm guessing that is a carry over statement based on the beating LSU took when Mullen/Miss. State rolled Aranda's defense the year before.

I love Dave Aranda don't confuse what I'm saying but Mullen made Feleipe "bleeping" Franks look world class in the 4th qtr. against Aranda's defense.

Dave Aranda's defense did not lose the game you are correct but you & I know, we expected a better performance from the defense. The O line lost the game plain and simple, both tackles were doing their best revolving door impersonation, they sucked out loud.

Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16372 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:51 am to
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excuses. New QBs, and ones with new OCs, do very well all over the country.

Excuse? It was a comparison. Excuse would imply Burrow did poorly last season when comparatively he did as well if not better than Flynn on his NC run.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13977 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:51 am to
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LSU's bar ain't that high.




Correct! Why aren't these trolls excited about improvement? There is reason to be optimistic.
We have an experienced quarterback that has positive stats for the first time since JR was a Junior.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:51 am to
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Tiger Ree


Those are nice pictures of Mike. Have you had an opportunity to play with him in his enclosure? You definitely should.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45948 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:58 am to
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We have an experienced quarterback that has positive stats for the first time since JR was a Junior.


Jefferson had positive stats in 09 headed into 2010, and Harris looked to be trending up heading into 16. on the plus side, Mett looked good down the stretch in 2012 and broke out the next year. I get your point, just saying.

I think #JeauxCool is in for a big year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Correct! Why aren't these trolls excited about improvement?


I was told by one of these people that it's impossible to be excited about 2019 because we are going to Lose to Alabama anyway, so its a waste.

I was told by this same person it's up to the head coach to get him/her excited.

I was also told that if you hold out any hope that LSU can beat Alabama, then you believe in ghosts and fairies.

And this person claims to be a "fan"
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51612 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:06 pm to
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(If you take out all of the drops, he would've had over 3000 yards and a 67% completion percentage)


If you take out all the drops for EVERY OTHER QB then 3,000 yards and 67% would not be impressive. Drops are part of the game. Every QB deals with that.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:17 pm to
He did not have a good season. He merely had an average season in most categories. It is stupid to compare him to previous LSU QBs, as that is irrelevant. He should be compared to the other current QBs around the country. His numbere can not be considered "good". I do believe that a lot of LSU QBs have been made to look worse than they are, due to shitty playcalling and scheme. Burrow held the ball too long all season and made the O-line look even worse than they already were. He did not make big plays against Florida when needed. He did not make any plays against Bama for an entire game and looked scared to death. He was not very good against A&M during much of regulation. He is not a bad QB, but good is also not the right word to describe his 2018 season. Hopefully 2019 will be better, because many of the other pieces are in place for success. If Orgeron/ Ensminger would get the frick out of the way and allow for offensive creativity, then I believe that he can have a good season. Time will tell, but the 2800/15/5 numbers are less than impressive for this time in college football.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69408 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:24 pm to
You think he made the oline look bad? Holy shite the oline made themselves look bad.

Ok compare him to transfer QBs that play the exact same offense as LSU...that would be the only fair comparison
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13977 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:32 pm to
What a ridiculous pile of garbage.
He had a mediocre OL, average running back, and his most talented receivers were freshmen.
He still kept us competitive. If he had had a Wendel Davis, Clayton, Reed, Bowe, Buster Davis, Landry or Beckham on the team, you may have an argument.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:37 pm to
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He did not have a good season.


He had a good season.

I expect him to have a record breaking season this year.
Posted by DRTiger67
Member since Apr 2013
668 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:50 pm to
Think beating Auburn and Georgia speaks volumes.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:58 pm to
Once again, I said "worse than they already were." That means that they were bad, but he didn't help the cause by holding the ball too long on many occasions. There is no offense that is identical to LSU, so that would be impossible. Ask any non-LSU fan if they believe that Burrow was good during the 2018 season. He went through stretches where he was border line terrible and was not throwing touchdown passes against far inferior teams. I said that he was not bad, but he certainly was not "good." LSU fans call him good, only because of the shite that they have witnessed for so long. If you took an unbiased approach and compared him to the rest of the NCAA QBs from last season, there is no way that he could be considered "good". Average at times is the most accurate way to describe his season.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293324 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:09 pm to
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If you took an unbiased approach and compared him to the rest of the NCAA QBs from last season, there is no way that he could be considered "good". Average at times is the most accurate way to describe his season.


Had one of the highest QBRs over the last 4 games of the year

I guess you see what you want to see though.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:27 pm to
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Three P5 QB's had at least 2,800 yards passing, 15 touchdown and 5 or fewer interceptions


Are these just arbitrary thresholds to create this list of 3 or is there some meaning to each that I'm missing?
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
2058 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:29 pm to
What should the expectation be this year?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:36 pm to
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I love Dave Aranda don't confuse what I'm saying but Mullen made Feleipe "bleeping" Franks look world class in the 4th qtr. against Aranda's defense.

In the entire second half Florida had 217 yards of offense. Franks was 6/15 for 91 yards and an INT. 49 of those 91 yards came on one play. It was UF's running game that beat LSU. That and the inability of the offense to score and the late turnovers by Burrow.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7106 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Whats your expected offensive production for next season?


Expected? No clue. There's all this experience and finally the offense the head coach has wanted all along. Who knows what to expect.

I'm satisfied with winning games. I've never really cared how it's done.

Doesn't mean I can't recognize arbitrary qualifications for what they are. Only 3 QBs had 2,800 yards, 15 TDs, and 5 or fewer last year. Great. Several had much better seasons.
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