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re: Thoughts on Max's Spring Game film

Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:21 pm to
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Myles played a Mizzou team that had half its defense absent due to Covid protocols

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Missouri will have eight players out, including three starters, for today's game against LSU at 11 a.m. in Faurot Field, team officials announced, and six are related to coronavirus concerns.
Wide receivers Damon Hazelton, Keke Chism and Dominic Gicinto, defensive backs Stacy Brown, Tyler Jones and defensive lineman Akial Byers will all miss the game due to COVID-19, a Missouri official said.

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Brown and Byers are both second on the team's depth chart, and Brown has one recorded tackle this season.
The one not mentioned, Tyler Jones, was a true freshman who didn't play all season.
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Defensive tackles Kobie Whiteside and Darius Robinson will both miss today's game with injuries, a Missouri official said. Whiteside, a starter, has a right leg injury, and Robinson, a reserve tackle, is out with a right ankle injury.


So Missouri was missing one starter on defensive, two second string, and two reserve players. Not quite half the defense you are making it out to be
Source: The Advocate

This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Hard to believe that you think that Max is better than Myles. Myles threw for over 1100 yards, 11 TDs and 3 interceptions in only 3 games. Not a lot of QBs threw for an average of 370 yards per game last year including Max

Max averaged 337 yards passing in his two starts, he accounted for 8 TDs to 1 INT. and he did that without Terrance Marshall, Arik Gilbert, John Emery and TDP. He did a great job in helping LSU get two Ws when it looked almost like an impossible task. Even their completion %s are less than 2% apart. Brennan definitely is better throwing the long ball, but other than that, Max appeared to be right there with everything else (and he can obviously move the chains with his his feet too).
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:32 pm to
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Missouri was missing one starter on defensive, two second string, and two reserve players. Not quite half the defense you are making it out to be

You mean Space Cowboy is full of shite? Who could have ever guessed that?

And Missouri was 5th in passing yards against in the SEC last year.

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This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 4:39 pm
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:41 pm to
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Wouldn't have helped Max with his downfield passes, Myles wasn't starting


This, it’s funny how many people think Brennan was going to be the starter. It shows the majority of the rant has no clue what’s going on
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:43 pm to
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If Myles played so bad and Oregon is the coach, why wasn't he better prepared to play?


Why are you asking ridiculously stupid questions? Why don't you go bore someone else to death with your immense stupidity?

Meanwhile, since you obviously don't believe Ed O is the de facto best four year head coach in America, alright then put your money where your utterly unhinged mouth is and cite one with a better record. Good luck loon.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:43 pm to
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Which is still significantly better than Myles's 60 percent for 116 yards and one touchdown.
So 2.5% and 16yds is now significantly better, however earlier you called 1.6% and 40yds just marginally better. Here's your own quote from earlier in the thread
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As Myles passing completion rate was only slightly 1.6 percent marginally better relative to Max and Myles' total yards passing in three games was again only marginally 43 yards more relative to Max's total yards in only two games.
Yes it's only in two games, however Max still had more passing attempts than Myles for the year as you also pointed out earlier, so does that really matter in terms of Myles only having 40 more yards? In fact, if you take Myles yards per pass attempt(8.4) and give Myles another 19 attempts to get to 150, he would have finished with 200yds more than Max, based on his average
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Myles' Stats 79 131 60.3 1,112

Max's Stats 88 150 58.7 1,069


So are you're saying that a difference of .9% can take you from marginal to significant?

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Myles's long touchdown pass should have been intercepted as well.
No it shouldn't have Boutte had perfect body position and the DB was facing backwards. That was textbook.

Go see for yourself Myles Brennan TD5:10 mark
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:44 pm to
There’s been no evidence to support otherwise. Only theories and conjecture.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:47 pm to
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Purple Tiger King


You've repeated Spring game passing stats about 5 times in this fricking thread. Stop.

Spring game stats are really meaningless. See earlier post comparing Brennan and Burrow in 2019.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:50 pm to
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since you obviously don't believe Ed O is the de facto best four year head coach in America, alright then put your money where your utterly unhinged mouth is and cite one with a better record.

Orgeron has lost 12 games the last 4 years.

Bama has lost 4
Ohio State has lost 5
Clemson has lost 5

Do I really need to keep going?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:50 pm to
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While Max did it against the number 6 Florida gators and against a very good Ole Miss team last season.




Bruh

Ole Miss had the 117th ranked scoring defense in the country last year. Mississippi State, as bad as they were, were 57th.

Ole Miss might've been the worst defense in the country.

They also had the 125h ranked passing defense (LSU was 127th, dead last).

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:55 pm to
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Ed O who has the de facto best four year head coaching record in America hands down.

Head coaching records from 2017 through 2020

Ed O: 39-12 (one national championship)
Saban: 51-4 (two national championships)
Dabo: 51-5 (one national Championship)

That doesn't look "hands down" to me. Looks pretty damn good though.
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:58 pm to
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Purple Tiger King


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:00 pm to
He doesn’t only repeat hand picked small and meaningless samples, he dismisses everything else. He doesn’t provide a pro-con argument or comparison, instead his position is “I’m smarter than everybody and if you don’t join in my bias you’re stupid.”
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:02 pm to
If anyone on this board is actually Ponamsky, it's Purple Tiger King/Space Cowboy.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:03 pm to
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He doesn’t provide a pro-con argument or comparison, instead his position is “I’m smarter than everybody and if you don’t join in my bias you’re stupid.”
Then after responding to you with a novella he insults you for "wasting this time"
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:07 pm to
And it’s fine if he likes Max more or that his opinion is that Max is a perfect player but he can’t articulate his position whatsoever. It’s all just insults, made up “information” he pulls out of thin air, outright false statistics and double standards. Have you ever seen him give Brennan credit for anything? If you’ve seen him in threads you’ve seen him say that 371ypg and over 3TDs were all just lucky plays that were actually terrible throws and decisions defenders failed to capitalize on. It’s beyond delusional.
Posted by Booper
Austin
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:11 pm to
I’ll saw great footwork and awareness in the pocket , but damn I wanted to see better accuracy and zip on his down field throws. I’m sure his dad has worked with him vigorously this off-season.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:17 pm to
I think you’re right. His feel for the pocket and ability to move within it was really good as a freshman but his low accuracy is a product of footwork and that needs improvement. He compensated for the arm with good timing on downfield throws but when he had to throw outside the numbers, even short, he had some trouble with zip. Another year in the weight program and simply getting stronger with age should’ve helped with that but we’ll have to wait and see how much.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:19 pm to
Myles going 0-11 on third down and not being able to score on 1st and goal from the 1 with the game on the line against Mizzou is good enough to beat Bama? Lol
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:21 pm to
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So 2.5% and 16yds is now significantly better,


It is when you take Brennan's long pass for a touchdown that should have also been an interception out of the equation like you took Max's.

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Yes it's only in two games, however Max still had more passing attempts than Myles for the year as you also pointed out earlier, so does that really matter in terms of Myles only having 40 more yards? In fact, if you take Myles yards per pass attempt(8.4) and give Myles another 19 attempts to get to 150, he would have finished with 200yds more than Max, based on his average


You forgot to mention that Myles had the benefit of Terrace Marshall and Arik Gilbert who were the leading receivers on this team until they opted out. Not to mention that Myles accumulated his stats against a Mizzou team with half its defense missing in action due to Covid protocols and against the de facto worse football team in the SEC.

While Max accumulated his stats in only his first start of his young career as only a true freshman in the Swamp against the number six Florida Gators and then against a very good Ole Miss team. While Myles choked with the game on the line against that same Mizzou team who had half its team missing in action due to Covid protocols. Not to mention that he was 0 for 10 on third down conversions in that game as well.

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So are you're saying that a difference of .9% can take you from marginal to significant?


What I'm saying is it is obvious that Max Johnson is not only a better QB as a true freshman relative to Myles Brennan as a fifth year senior QB, but that Max's ceiling is also astronomically far higher at the same time.

As you loons only focus on passing stats as if that is the only thing that matters. However, passing stats are only one single aspect of what a quality QB is and when you put everything else involved into the equation, then it is very obvious to people with open-minds that Max is the far better QB of the two of them both last season and especially this season.
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No it shouldn't have Boutte had perfect body position and the DB was facing backwards. That was textbook


So did McGlothern. In fact, McGlothern thought he had an easy interception until Boutte came out of nowhere to snatch that ball at the last possible second. In fact, Myles' touchdown relative to Max's long touchdown was far closer to being intercepted. As Jontre used his body to shield the defender away from the ball.
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