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re: Those selling autographs on ebay etc from LSU, it's WRONG!
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:21 am to secman12
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:21 am to secman12
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these autographs must not be sold or traded for money or any item of value as this could jeopardize the eligibility of the involved student-athlete.
This means the Student-Athlete must not be paid or given something of value.
The NCAA has no control of individuals NOT employed or playing in the NCAA
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Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:22 am to secman12
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and I bet AJ Green and UGA fans are not..
AJ Green SOLD his jersey to get extra cash for Spring break. This is NOT what you are talking about
ETA:
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ATHENS — Having served his four-game NCAA suspension for selling a jersey for $1,000, Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green on Tuesday told why he did it and how he got caught.
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 10:23 am
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:23 am to secman12
Incorrect. The athlete must be aware of it and, if it is a repeated operation (think: T-Shirt store, etc) the player / school has to try to stop it. However, there is NOTHING that is "illegal" about any one person simply collecting an autograph and later deciding to sell it.
The NCAA has no control of individuals NOT employed or playing in the NCAA
you are 100% wrong, look up BOOSTER
tell it to aj green and sorry, but you are wrong, read the rules, you are putting your spin on it and it is wrong....you may think the rule is stupid, and maybe it is, but your assumptions are not factual. And if you think you are not subject to NCAA rules you need to look up the word "booster" in the bylaws...you think LSU cannot ban you if NCAA tells them you did wrong? you are wrong...sorry, your posts have some good points, but you are off on this part
The NCAA has no control of individuals NOT employed or playing in the NCAA
you are 100% wrong, look up BOOSTER
tell it to aj green and sorry, but you are wrong, read the rules, you are putting your spin on it and it is wrong....you may think the rule is stupid, and maybe it is, but your assumptions are not factual. And if you think you are not subject to NCAA rules you need to look up the word "booster" in the bylaws...you think LSU cannot ban you if NCAA tells them you did wrong? you are wrong...sorry, your posts have some good points, but you are off on this part
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 10:25 am
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:24 am to secman12
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tell it to aj green and sorry, but you are wrong,
look above
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:24 am to secman12
I don't think this rule is being interpreted correctly.
I don't see any way the NCAA is taking eligibility away because an athlete signs a fan's baseball. The athlete has no idea what that fan plans on doing. If he is responsible for teh fan going and selling it, then I suppose if an athlete signs a bat and a fan goes and hits someone in the head for it they should arrest the athlete.
If the fan signs an autograph KNOWING that fan is going to sell it and turn a profit there lies the problem. AJ Green sold his own jersey folks, that has nothing to do with a fan getting an autograph and selling it on their own, for their own profit.
I don't see any way the NCAA is taking eligibility away because an athlete signs a fan's baseball. The athlete has no idea what that fan plans on doing. If he is responsible for teh fan going and selling it, then I suppose if an athlete signs a bat and a fan goes and hits someone in the head for it they should arrest the athlete.
If the fan signs an autograph KNOWING that fan is going to sell it and turn a profit there lies the problem. AJ Green sold his own jersey folks, that has nothing to do with a fan getting an autograph and selling it on their own, for their own profit.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:28 am to TexasTiger1185
I don't think this rule is being interpreted correctly.
I don't see any way the NCAA is taking eligibility away because an athlete signs a fan's baseball. The athlete has no idea what that fan plans on doing. If he is responsible for teh fan going and selling it, then I suppose if an athlete signs a bat and a fan goes and hits someone in the head for it they should arrest the athlete.
If the fan signs an autograph KNOWING that fan is going to sell it and turn a profit there lies the problem. AJ Green sold his own jersey folks, that has nothing to do with a fan getting an autograph and selling it on their own, for their own profit.
ok, last post for ahwile, really do want to hear what others think, but again, you are giving YOUR interpretation AND you are trusting that the ones getting the stuff AND reselling are telling the players this? You are saying and innocent player would never have an issue- come on how can you know how the NCAA or LSU compliance for that matter will judge this? even if it is 100-1 against it going wrong, why do it???? so you can make money!!!!
I don't see any way the NCAA is taking eligibility away because an athlete signs a fan's baseball. The athlete has no idea what that fan plans on doing. If he is responsible for teh fan going and selling it, then I suppose if an athlete signs a bat and a fan goes and hits someone in the head for it they should arrest the athlete.
If the fan signs an autograph KNOWING that fan is going to sell it and turn a profit there lies the problem. AJ Green sold his own jersey folks, that has nothing to do with a fan getting an autograph and selling it on their own, for their own profit.
ok, last post for ahwile, really do want to hear what others think, but again, you are giving YOUR interpretation AND you are trusting that the ones getting the stuff AND reselling are telling the players this? You are saying and innocent player would never have an issue- come on how can you know how the NCAA or LSU compliance for that matter will judge this? even if it is 100-1 against it going wrong, why do it???? so you can make money!!!!
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:32 am to secman12
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You are saying and innocent player would never have an issue
correct
What happened to your AJ Green screed?
Were you correct there? if not, why are you sure you are correct now?
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:35 am to secman12
No child or person is "more deserving" of an autograph than any other person who wants an autograph for themselves.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:36 am to secman12
Wouldn't LSU Compliance and NCAA Compliance need some kind of evidence in order to withold a players eligibility? I can't think of a single instance where a player was withheld from play by the NCAA without proof of their wrong doing.
I agree that it is wrong to get autographs for the purpose of turning it into cash. I think it is taking advantage of a college athlete, I think it is taking advantage of the fan you sell it to (I know, if you buy it your subjecting yourself; still think taking advantage) and I think it gets in the way of other people getting the autograph they WANT for their home/family.
The only way an athlete could know this was happening is if A) they are in cahoots B)they recognize the same person coming day after day getting multiple autographs by the same athlete
They player could pick up on B above and decide not to give that person autographs anymore. And maybe they should.
I agree that it is wrong to get autographs for the purpose of turning it into cash. I think it is taking advantage of a college athlete, I think it is taking advantage of the fan you sell it to (I know, if you buy it your subjecting yourself; still think taking advantage) and I think it gets in the way of other people getting the autograph they WANT for their home/family.
The only way an athlete could know this was happening is if A) they are in cahoots B)they recognize the same person coming day after day getting multiple autographs by the same athlete
They player could pick up on B above and decide not to give that person autographs anymore. And maybe they should.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 10:37 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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What happened to your AJ Green screed?
We called him out on being off base and he just decided to ignore the argument all together.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:14 am to secman12
My son lives in dallas. He is 5 and I get autographs for him. If its not crowded. I also ask to sign to him. Am I wrong for that? When he did live in BR, he went to aleast the start of most weekend games. Good parent or bad parent?
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:20 am to Coastietiger
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My son lives in dallas. He is 5 and I get autographs for him. If its not crowded. I also ask to sign to him. Am I wrong for that? When he did live in BR, he went to aleast the start of most weekend games. Good parent or bad parent?
Neither, I say GREAT
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:24 am to TheDoc
NO one over 15 should be asking for autographs
JMO
JMO
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:27 am to TexasTiger1185
Selling an amateur players autograph can jeopardize said players amateur status. Remember the "tm7 honey badger" shirts that had to stop being sold? It was because it could potentially ruin his amateur status
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:28 am to stapuffmarshy
I agree that it is wrong to get autographs for the purpose of turning it into cash. I think it is taking advantage of a college athlete, I think it is taking advantage of the fan you sell it to (I know, if you buy it your subjecting yourself; still think taking advantage) and I think it gets in the way of other people getting the autograph they WANT for their home/family.
well said, I agree 100% and have to admit I am backing off the original post as far as adults getting stuff signed, I was off, I agree if they are not re-selling, trading with value etc. to each his own. As far as AJ Green where do you think I was wrong? Maybe I was, but do not see what you are saying.
well said, I agree 100% and have to admit I am backing off the original post as far as adults getting stuff signed, I was off, I agree if they are not re-selling, trading with value etc. to each his own. As far as AJ Green where do you think I was wrong? Maybe I was, but do not see what you are saying.
This post was edited on 6/6/12 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:44 am to secman12
secman12,
If you saw something that you are concerned might be a violation of NCAA rules, instead of posting it on a public internet message board, the correct course of action would be to contact the LSU compliance office and report what you saw so they can correct any problem that might be occurring and report anything they need to report to whatever entities they need to report it to.
If you saw something that you are concerned might be a violation of NCAA rules, instead of posting it on a public internet message board, the correct course of action would be to contact the LSU compliance office and report what you saw so they can correct any problem that might be occurring and report anything they need to report to whatever entities they need to report it to.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:45 am to Nuts4LSU
if you see something...say something
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:53 am to secman12
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As far as AJ Green where do you think I was wrong? Maybe I was, but do not see what you are saying.
He was selling his own merch. He didn't sign something and then someone sold it without his knowledge. He more than participated, he was the one who sold it on ebay.
Posted on 6/6/12 at 11:54 am to LSUTygerFan
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if you see something...say something
snitches get stiches though!!!
Posted on 6/6/12 at 12:05 pm to secman12
quote:So you made this thread because you didn't get your way?
secman12
And then put the actual rule so that the players may now get in trouble, again because you didn't get your way?
These players signing autographs are doing it because they love the fans who support them and here you are trying to get them in trouble, again because you didn't get your way?
This whole rant will in no way help to get your kids ball autographed, but will only serve to get the players in trouble...
Did I understand that right?
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