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re: This USA Today crap feels way too calculated
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:48 am to Madking
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:48 am to Madking
The word rape is powerful. That’s why people on here keep using it to try to tarnish LSU. The word also has a meaning. The traditional meaning of rape is not I made a decision I regretted a week later when someone didn’t call me after sex. To conflate that with rape is a disservice to rape victims.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:49 am to Seaux_cal_tiger
The timing was not a coincidence.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 9:57 am to 1badboy
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Penn State got away with enjoying the young boy's for about 25 years !
Yes, and it's still shameful and disgraceful. Joe Pa was not a saint.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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the AD specifically instructed its employees/coaches to report them to a person working in the AD, which is the behaviors the law specifically tries to prevent. the whole point of the law is to avoid EXACTLY what LSU was doing (circumventing Title 9 compliance by keeping it "in house")
This.
The important new stuff in this article is that Alleva set up a misdirection to avoid the Title IX office and that Miriam Segar failed to do her required job to report once she was designated as the AD focal point.
If the email is genuine, this new information adds Segar to the list of people who may need to be fired. It also means that we need to re-hire Alleva just to fire him again.
GEAUX TIGERS
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:10 am to Basura Blanco
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You lost me. How am I being dishonest? I only said the incident was reported by the players, as in not reported by her.
you failed to include that they lied and said she attacked him, which makes their "report" completely invalid
if somebody read your comment, they'd think the players reported Davis being abusive, which they didn't. they reported SHE was wrong
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When I said convoluted, I meant that it had to have been convoluted from Sharon Lewis' and Verge Ausberry's point of view.
no. they were complicit in violating Title 9
that's why Verge deleted the incriminating text
LSU itself found that Lewis violated Title 9 procedure
it wasn't convoluted. it was coordinated and they got caught
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:16 am to Thorny
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It also means that we need to re-hire Alleva just to fire him again.

Firing that jackass again would be wonderful.
Heads really do need to roll. As I understand it, several of the players in question - understand we're not just speaking of Guice and Davis - were suspended from the team. But there does seem to be a pattern of cover-up, particularly as it concerns Title IX requirements.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:34 am to reagancajun
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But there does seem to be a pattern of cover-up, particularly as it concerns Title IX requirements.
This part goes beyond the Athletic Department, which means that the system president at the time should be in trouble as well, except that FKing bailed and is at Oregon State now. Any bets on whether OSU is reconsidering his employment there?
GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:36 am to Thorny
Yes, it absolutely goes beyond the Athletic Department, but the reporting has to start in the athletic department. They're the ones who have to initiate the process.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 11:36 am to Seaux_cal_tiger
Lest you forget the mainstream media lacks honesty...they simply cannot be trusted and the past four years destroyed essentially all of their credibility.
They will publish anything that gets attention...anything...and if the publishing organization or a journalist has a hit list there is no telling what they will publish.
They are doing it today as I write this...and USA Today is one of the culprits...among many.
They will publish anything that gets attention...anything...and if the publishing organization or a journalist has a hit list there is no telling what they will publish.
They are doing it today as I write this...and USA Today is one of the culprits...among many.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:04 pm to Seaux_cal_tiger
100% retribution for tPear giving the NCAA tbird
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:21 pm to Seaux_cal_tiger
No doubt it is a Bama/georgia influencer. Almost all of it was old news fro a year and then two years ago
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:24 pm to tigre704
Based on what has been reported How is it that LSU did not take rape seriously... The women involved would not report it. Because they did not do that there was nothing to investigate. The assault stuff was dealt with and the guy served time. What else do you suggest be done. Their are rights and confidentiality all around these issues. Even the tennis coach stuff is pretty much a he said she said situation.
So what is your point
So what is your point
Posted on 12/17/20 at 12:35 pm to Drizzt
Legitimate rape?
It's rape as soon as the woman says, "No." It is rape whether the woman saying no is drunk or sober. "NO" is the magic word. It means I don't consent. If she said it and he continued, it is rape. I guess you might call it, "legitimate" rape. I continue to wonder what illegitimate rape is. Do tell.
It's rape as soon as the woman says, "No." It is rape whether the woman saying no is drunk or sober. "NO" is the magic word. It means I don't consent. If she said it and he continued, it is rape. I guess you might call it, "legitimate" rape. I continue to wonder what illegitimate rape is. Do tell.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:35 pm to mhc4tigers
Some women involved did report it. The story talks about multiple women, not just the one in the Davis case. Moreover, one AD did not call back a woman who'd lodged a complaint, nor did she report the complaint(s) to the NCAA per Title IX requirements. Campus police are refusing to release the Guice report to the woman who actually filed it. The problem is that this isn't a one-time event; it's a pattern of cover-up that goes beyond the coaches. If anything, the coaches themselves did the right thing by releasing many of the players in question.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:36 pm to geauxgrrl
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t's rape as soon as the woman says, "No."
Quit being so logical. [/s]
Seriously, though, you're quite correct. And people are overlooking that there are multiple allegations.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 2:40 pm to Basura Blanco
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Calise Richardson was a student athlete recruiting hostess who had previously dated Drake Davis
I’d love to know what they’re trained to do and what they are supposed versus what the actually do.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:12 pm to geauxgrrl
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Legitimate rape?
It's rape as soon as the woman says, "No." It is rape whether the woman saying no is drunk or sober. "NO" is the magic word. It means I don't consent. If she said it and he continued, it is rape. I guess you might call it, "legitimate" rape. I continue to wonder what illegitimate rape is. Do tell
He is not trying to argue what constitutes rape. Nobody is here but you. Go grandstand somewhere else.
What he is saying is, either he has not heard the details of the case or the details have not been released so all we have AT THIS POINT is an allegation, a police report and no arrest record.
Don't get me wrong, rape is an absolutely horrible crime but there is still a judicial process that must take place.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 3:30 pm to Seaux_cal_tiger
Guice was absolutely accused of rape by TWO women. Campus police would not release the complete report - even to one of the women who filed a complaint. When they did finally release it, they redacted Guice's name.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 12/17/20 at 5:22 pm to Seaux_cal_tiger
Feels ,like something an alabama alum would get started. They l0ve to sabotage biggest opponents.
Posted on 12/17/20 at 10:46 pm to geauxgrrl
So you know for a fact that the word “no” was said...,because that’s not the stories I read in USA Today. Keep virtue signaling though. It works for you.
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