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re: This Transfer Portal bullcrap is insane. The NFL doesn't even run like this.

Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36803 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:08 pm to
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This Transfer Portal bullcrap is insane. The NFL doesn't even run like this.
JONBURRIS1981
Players can leave any freaking time they want to. How can you build a team like this? How can a coach build depth like this? Kids are leaving just to leave.
What's the website for your newsletter? I want to sign up. To hold me over, I'm printing this out now to show my kids.
Posted by ELTIGRE55
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2023
361 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:08 pm to
A lot of the posters are just happy because their youngin's are getting rich .
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36803 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:09 pm to
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18 year old kids are begging for money from families that need it
wut
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20930 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:20 pm to
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Then you should want a players union and let everything be collectively bargained.


There was a day where I would have been 1000% against this but now maybe not a bad idea. Roster control has got to improve.
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
4841 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:50 pm to
They can. Sign a one year deal
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
4841 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:52 pm to
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Why should coaches be allowed to find a better fit if players aren’t?
Theres sports leagues in america that operate like this. NFL, NBA, MLB and the NHL make players sign contracts.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:52 pm to
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Theres sports leagues in america that operate like this. NFL, NBA, MLB and the NHL make players sign contracts.


Right. But they are also collective bargaining. Meaning the players are a union.

Like I stated previously. Even the colleges are not willing to invest more than a year at a time to these players by only offering them 1 year scholarships. Why should the players have more loyalty to the program than the program has to them?
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:53 pm to
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A lot of the posters are just happy because their youngin's are getting rich .


Why would that be a problem for anyone? Unless jealousy is a factor.
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
4841 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:19 am to
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Right. But they are also collective bargaining. Meaning the players are a union.
create a union and start collective bargaining. Have players apply when they are in high school to be eligible for collective bargaining.

Cant imagine the legal dealings to get this done
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3331 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:31 am to
When there is no law, chaos prevails
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32033 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:42 am to
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create a union and start collective bargaining. Have players apply when they are in high school to be eligible for collective bargaining.

Cant imagine the legal dealings to get this done


First, the players would have to be legally classified as employees.

Aside from that, there is probably not a lot of immediate incentive for the players to create a union and negotiate "guardrails" on the current structure. This is a GREAT marketplace for them. They can play college football and essentially be perpetual free agents with all the negotiating leverage. Football players don't really want revenue sharing because Title IX will likely require them to share that revenue with other athletes on campus (i.e. the other sports). Title IX also may require that the revenue sharing be equal. Meaning the star QB may have to be paid the same as the right fielder on the softball team. In the current marketplace they can maximize their value.

What brings them to the negotiating table is the threat of college football "going out of business". Meaning you either come to the table to negotiate or we go out of business and you have no marketplace.

Things will likely have to get to an inflection point for the players to form a union. That is the costs of doing business become so high for the schools/conferences that the best option is to simply end the business. We aren't there yet, or really even close (at least with respect to the major conferences) because of the massive TV deals that just kicked in.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54703 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:00 am to
Sometimes we have to suffer to forget the lessons learned in previous generations. For example, I'm seeing more and more people saying kids shouldn't have to get polio vaccines. That's because they never endured a polio epidemic. They forgot .

If you read Bear Bryant's autobiography with John Underwood, he talks about what it was like before there were rules. College football was a wild Wild West of sorts. Hell, you could even play for a college team on Saturday then turn around and play for some pro team on Sunday. The rules were put in place to stop all that crap and bring some order to college football.

We forgot all those lessons and are now having to painfully relearn them. This model is not sustainable but part of the problem is there is no advocate for the sport itself, someone who is looking at the big picture, the health of the game, not just profits. Those networks will run you into the ground just as they did Nascar and other sports.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11605 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:04 am to
You can’t build depth or team chemistry now. This is a big reason why you’re going to see a lot of parity in college football now. You can’t build up a roster like you used to.
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
4841 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:08 am to
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we go out of business and you have no marketplace.
football players go out of business?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32033 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:13 am to
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This is a big reason why you’re going to see a lot of parity in college football now.


Is that a bad thing?

The NFL has the most parity of any of the major sports leagues. Arguably, that keeps more fans invested.

If you are one of the "big market" teams (Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, etc) you don't want parity because it threatens your stranglehold on the top. But if you have fans in Oregon, Arizona, Iowa, Florida, Pennsylvania, Idaho, Illinois, etc. ALL invested rather than just pockets around the country is that "bad" for the sport as a whole?
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by BBQ
Member since Oct 2018
117 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:15 am to
Yet you clicked on it, read the responses, and took the time to respond. I mean I get what you're saying, it's literally a couple per day, but if it bothers you just pass once you've read the thread title, which is right there in bold letters.

What am I missing?
Posted by BBQ
Member since Oct 2018
117 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:23 am to
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This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 10:47 am
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
37692 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:37 am to
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What am I missing?



I enjoy pointing out people uselessly cluttering the board with repetitive threads.

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it's literally a couple per day


It seems like more than that but perhaps I am suffering from selective perception distortion.
Posted by BBQ
Member since Oct 2018
117 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:39 am to
I agree. It really does tear away from the concept of developing players or having depth. Now I will say the product on the field was more fun than it's been in any recent year. We've had over a decade of knowing that alabama, Ohio state, and Georgia were going to be one, two, three and every other school in the country was playing for the fourth playoff spot. It's an exaggeration but you get the point. Watching so many upsets this year was actually pretty fun.


But to your point of building a team or developing players, it will be very difficult. Until it changes, it really is a mercenary League where you have to identify and sign the best players from high school and college every year. I can't imagine being a head coach and literally having to recruit my entire roster every single year back to the program while also recruiting High School kids. Always thought it would be a dream job, but I really don't think I would want to be a college coach in the current environment.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
54703 posts
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:41 am to
Tampering should be illegal as it is in the NFL .

Nothing stopping NCAA from suspending coaches who tamper or can't control it.
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