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There’s a middle ground
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:23 am
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:23 am
You can recognize that Kelly needs to change the culture of the program and bring in the guys he wants, and you can trust him to do that based on his body work. But you can also recognize losing Raymond is a massive loss, especially short term. Frank back helps mitigate it some but it’s still a big loss. No the sky isn’t falling and there’s no reason to panic, but let’s not act losing Raymond is inconsequential either
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:24 am to Allthatfades
I hate losing CR, but if he turns around and brings someone like Kerry Coombs in… well, he’s redeemed himself. Not saying we get Coombs, I’m just saying someone with that history. You have to assume Cooks isn’t his replacement.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 7:27 am
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:25 am to Allthatfades
Ok then lets recognize our DB coverage last two seasons had a lot of busted coverages! Many times looking very confused.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:25 am to Allthatfades
Daronte Jones is a great secondary coach, he could very well be retained at this point so the loss of Raymond would be moot.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:25 am to Allthatfades
Losing Raymond doesn't look good, sound good or make any sense. It also hurts the alignment and recruiting.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:26 am to kajuntiga
Adults are running the program now.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:26 am to Allthatfades
Our secondary was awful the last two years… Raymond attitude after Bush hire hurt LSU.
Whatever… we lost our locker room and player leadership
Change is and was needed
Whatever… we lost our locker room and player leadership
Change is and was needed
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:29 am to SOL2
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It also hurts the alignment
It's actually PART of tAlignment. And it will hurt recruiting in the short term but in case you haven't noticed, Coach Kelly is hiring guys who are proven top notch ace recruiters. We'll be fine. I'll miss Coach Raymond and TYFYS but it's time for a culture shift.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:31 am to mhc4tigers
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Our secondary was awful the last two years
Was it worse than our offensive line?
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:31 am to Allthatfades
I feel like we needed a complete re boot. All the guys that were here under Miles need to be gone. The culture has gotten really bad.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:34 am to Allthatfades
Seeing how people downvoted you shows just how stupid this fanbase is. They basically are at the point where no matter how bad of a decision Kelly makes they will try to justify it. It’s really bizarre
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:41 am to Allthatfades
You can also recognize that it sucks to lose him right before the early signing period and appreciate the great work he has done, but also understand that things may have gotten stale after 10 years. I hate to see him go, but it’s not the end of the world. No position coach is that important.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:47 am to Allthatfades
I think we need to stop holding a scorecard and judge CBK's performance on who goes and who stays. Coaches leave for many reasons other than a new sheriff in town. Coaches may be looking for a challenge different from what they have at LSU. And I'm confident some that leave will look back and think - boy was that a mistake. I'd love to be part of that championship run. The initial chaos is unsettling because it's human nature to take comfort in things as they are because it's a known quantity (even the crap). It's the unknown that scary because we fantasize a worse case. But if you're to break out and go in a new direction then change needs to happen - some by the actions and vision of the head coach and some by the actions and vision of the assistant coaches and players. We're all on the train and might as well strap in and see where we end up.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:48 am to mhc4tigers
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Our secondary was awful the last two years… Raymond attitude after Bush hire hurt LSU.
Whatever… we lost our locker room and player leadership
Change is and was needed
Spot on
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:57 am to tygerphan
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Was it worse than our offensive line?
No. But a change was already made there. Brad Davis has been on campus less than 6 months.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:59 am to Allthatfades
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You can recognize that Kelly needs to change the culture of the program and bring in the guys he wants, and you can trust him to do that based on his body work. But you can also recognize losing Raymond is a massive loss, especially short term. Frank back helps mitigate it some but it’s still a big loss. No the sky isn’t falling and there’s no reason to panic, but let’s not act losing Raymond is inconsequential either
Let’s also recognize that while CR was an elite recruiter of DBs, our secondary hasn’t been great and that position group has had more quitters than others.
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