re: There is more than recruiting going on at Bama...

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So wouldn’t it make sense with all the assistant coaches that have worked under Saban and have moved on, they would have instituted similar practices or at least reported the practice to the ncaa? I love the depths fans will go to in order to make excuses on why their team isn’t as good as another team!

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Yes, we need to stop making excuses and man up and accept our butt whipping. Fact is LSU is just not elite anymore and we won't be as long as Saban is coaching.

Gotta love the delusion!

After looking at him Sat. night I would say he's gained anywhere from 15-20 lbs from when he was in BR. He's a lot thicker than he was.

It's just a much bigger part of the culture and more accepted their than it is at LSU. Doesn't hurt that the raw material they have to work with, the starting point, is so far ahead of everyone else either.


For one thing just look at the signs, not only the big gains the players make, but the anger and aggression of the players even when stomping another team on the score board. Look at things like Irv Smith kicking the LSU DB when he was getting up after scoring his TD. Look at Raekwon Smiths throwing heavy punches on a Missouri player under him on the ground. Those aren't normal behaviors but are very normal for someone juicing. Just a lot of unnecessary shite after the play that other teams generally don't do when they are already beating the tar out another team.

this thread is utterly pathetic.

Just accept the losses like a man. Stop with the absurd excuse-making.

I have a friend who is now deceased who used to manage a website for LSU. He said something about Bama players using "deer antler spray" I always thought he was crazy but maybe not.

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Can we start doing what they're doing then?

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we can and do but not to the same extent. Plus they already have a big head start in talent to work with so doubt it would make enough difference even if we double our efforts in juicing. Doubt we get shut out though if our oline is literally juicing its balls off.

OUr oline player ranking coming out of high school is 370. Theirs is 38. The only high ranking olineman we have is Deculus at 48 who doesn't even meet their average.


Take an average LSU olineman like Magee. He could juice like a mofo but still wouldn't be on pare with a juiced up Alex Letherwood.

I am talking about how some, like you boxcar, are delusional. You just can’t imagine that other programs do it better and you have to create some reason that excuses it away. Take the loss and move on.

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Pure Fantasy. No way you could keep these kids mouths shut. Who provides the product? How do the injections get administered?

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No one talked, and nothing happened when Bama got caught red-handed with a stockpile of Dear Antler Spray.

It got 1 news cycle and then the story was spiked.

Man, I remember all the talk for years about Lance Armstrong, he denied x1000. Was even coy with it. People who said they knew he was doing it caught he'll, becuz it was "Lance Armstrong".

It does not have to be every player taking it but key players. I'm not saying they are, but it could be possible with ant athlete or player.