re: There is more than recruiting going on at Bama...

LSUStar- Remember Saban only cheated when he was at LSU.

Oh nice, we get our asses beat down, so now we'll start accusing them of things.

Well played, sir.

Don't look too far, the answer is DEER ANTLER VELVET SPRAY!!!

Yes. Yes, I forgot that...

Whoever let him go made a big mistake.

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you are very naïve. It is circulated amongst the players through people close to the program but not officially part of it. The staff just turns a blind eye to it and sees what they want to see, big gains, and indirectly encourages it. It is not run directly by the coaching staff. They aren't stupid about it. Think of all the big time supporters and what they feel they can do to help the team.

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Exactly! I don't want to be either naive or a conspiracy theorist, but when there is talent parity, CNS is not that great...otherwise, he would have been better than 15-17 in the NFL...think about it...this is true if the coaching, and only the coaching, is that much better.

Also, don't neglect the fact that the fox is guarding the hen house...Emmertt is his good friend.

At this point it is what it is, But, there is something amiss at UA...I don't know what it is, but in today's football, with scholarship limitation, no program can be that dominate by superior coaching alone. With kids wanting immediate playing time and leaving school after school for more PT you can't simply keep all those 5*'s happy just because they love their head coach or because they want a ring.

Call me what you want, it simply doesn't add up.

I'm not saying it's all Saban...UA has been a corrupt program off and on for years.

Give us some examples of the corruption with proof?

You're correct...I don't have proof nor am I suggesting that this is an absolute fact. I don't have the where-with-all to obtain the evidence, but I do have some common sense...and that tells me that something is amiss. Often times things are coincidental, but there is simply too much to write this off as coincidence.

So, take it for what it's worth...nothing. But, after all this is a message board, not a court of law.

Yall got beat! It happens. Get over it.

That's not it................think about how LSU's entire athletic program took off when Skip took over as AD, women's BB, softball and all included. He led the program and made decisions for LSU, not his wallet. Alleva cares for no one but himself, and only finances what is absolutely necessary. Why extend Caldwell? Cheaper, right? Wade will be gone in three or less. We're broken until JAlleva is gone. So don't blame 'Bama, I'm sure they'd relish better competition from us.

I'm sure there are numerous decisions devoid of moral value made every day in the belly of the beast that is Alabama football. A ton of skeletons in their closet and everyone on the payroll. Things that would make a mafia boss blush.