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re: The Worst Part About These Teams Getting In

Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13297 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:35 pm to
Except in the NFL where the four division winners are the top 4 seeds
Posted by SpeedRacer89
Member since Jan 2024
145 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:36 pm to
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For decades, the three factors that matter most are "good wins", "bad losses", and strength of schedule.


Please show me the good wins and strength of schedule for SMU Boise ASU and Indiana
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14744 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:40 pm to
DESERVING is the key here. 12-1 conference champ Boise State is more deserving than 9-3 Bama or OMiss or Carolina.

If this year's CFP has taught us anything in the SEC, it is that we should NOT go to 9 SEC games. Playing 9 SEC games will make it less likely even 3 SEC teams get into the CFP.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7383 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 1:54 pm to
Worst part is CFP ranks teams 1 through 12 but those 1 through 12 teams are not the 12 playoff teams.
Posted by ScrappyDoo
The Box
Member since May 2015
299 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:34 pm to
Exactly, the new playoff system was supposed to get the 12 best teams and that's what they should have done. SC was probably the hottest team in the country and played quality competition. They should be playing this weekend.
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2266 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:38 pm to
I’d let in FCS teams over any other SEC team getting in. Not sure why people so desperately want the teams they hate to be given a chance
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
3119 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:46 pm to
Bring back the BCS ranking system. Have an 8 team playoff.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:50 pm to
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A team who plays the best teams in the country is probably gonna drop a game or two more than a team that plays a bunch of crap teams.


So, you think Vandy and OU are among the best teams in the country (vs Alabama)? So you think that Kentucky and LSU are among the best teams in the country (Ole Miss)? South Carolina lost to LSU and squeezed by Missouri and Old Dominion. Once again, the problem is not who got in and who didn't in. The problem is they tried to fill too many slots with teams that weren't good enough to begin with.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4267 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:58 pm to
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Likewise, SMU finished the regular season with 1 loss. Bama, SC, and Ole Miss had 3. SMU shouldn’t be punished for playing an extra game.


The problem with that argument is that “extra” game was only their second game against a currently ranked opponent. The overall difficulty of their schedule was still significantly weaker than the 3-loss SEC teams. They should be “punished” for playing a bunch of nobodies. The ACCCG simply exposed the weakness of their qualifications.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:59 pm to
8 IMO is the maximum. I personally had no problem with 4 teams in a playoff. I think 2 was probably a bit skimpy to decide the NC. BTW, no one has brought this up yet but as we know having more teams and having an off week between the CC games and the 1st playoff games extends the season weeks. Since the 1st playoff games are home games, we are now watching game in late Dec where weather becomes a factor where it didn't before. Of course if the home teams are dome teams or down south it doesn't matter. But the conditions were far less than ideal in South Bend and Happy Valley. How unfair is that for the visiting college football team?
Posted by Tblock
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2021
1861 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:22 pm to
Let's say SC actually beats us, like they should have, and replaces SMU. What does that game look like today?

ANd what do LSU fans think about bk at 7-5?
Posted by SpeedRacer89
Member since Jan 2024
145 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:22 pm to
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So, you think Vandy and OU are among the best teams in the country (vs Alabama)? So you think that Kentucky and LSU are among the best teams in the country (Ole Miss)? South Carolina lost to LSU and squeezed by Missouri and Old Dominion. Once again, the problem is not who got in and who didn't in. The problem is they tried to fill too many slots with teams that weren't good enough to begin with.



On the road at LSU is absolutely a tougher game than anything ASU, Boise, or SMU faced in the regular season
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:33 pm to
SMU, excepting the QB, might very well be better than S Carolina. They really have upgraded their talent, but the SMU QB Jennings is horrible.. I'm sure Penn State gave him the game ball for singlehandedly losing that game.

As far as your LSU 7-5 record by losing the S Carolina game they should have lost, I guess you don't want to consider the opposite that LSU dominated Florida in every single category except the score and lost that game. Thus, LSU is not 7-5 but back to 8-4
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:36 pm to
If referring to Ole Miss losing @ LSU, Ole Miss lost in Oxford to Kentucky.
Posted by SpeedRacer89
Member since Jan 2024
145 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:38 pm to
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SMU, excepting the QB, might very well be better than S Carolina. They really have upgraded their talent


No. South Carolina’s front seven would absolutely annihilate SMU. And South Carolina would run all over them all game long. South Carolina vs SMU would look very similar to Penn State vs SMU
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:43 pm to
You and I have different assessments. SMU was dominating the game vs Penn State in yardage, time of possession, etc. But yeah, when your QB throws 2 pick 6's, blows an easy TD throw on 4th down, and has another INT at the Penn State 19 yard line....all in the 1st half I might add, you are going to lose the game. I quit watching at halftime but IMO SMU had the better team...IF they had a QB who could tell his team's uniforms from the opponent's. SMU would beat S Carolina with a decent QB...but they don't have one. My brother said he looked great during the regular season...he watched all their games. BTW, South Carolina would NOT run over SMU's defense...no way.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38050 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:51 pm to
The problem is that the juggernauts all pretty much play each other now. I’m not saying they made the best choice on everything. But until the playoff is bigger, you have to do the best you can. I don’t think it’s as bad off as some think. But smu was a question mark I agree.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 3:52 pm
Posted by SpeedRacer89
Member since Jan 2024
145 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:55 pm to
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You and I have different assessments. SMU was dominating the game vs Penn State in yardage, time of possession, etc. But yeah, when your QB throws 2 pick 6's, blows an easy TD throw on 4th down, and has another INT at the Penn State 19 yard line....all in the 1st half I might add, you are going to lose the game. I quit watching at halftime but IMO SMU had the better team...IF they had a QB who could tell his team's uniforms from the opponent's. SMU would beat S Carolina with a decent QB...but they don't have one. My brother said he looked great during the regular season...he watched all their games. BTW, South Carolina would NOT run over SMU's defense...no way.


My man. With all due respect this is one of the most insane takes I’ve ever heard. They just got absolutely dominated SMU in every facet. When you have pick sixes you’re obviously going to have less yards and TOP on offense. If you throw pick sixes all game you could have zero TOP and offensive yardage. When you get beaten as badly as they did you didn’t dominate any element of the game.
Posted by SpeedRacer89
Member since Jan 2024
145 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 3:56 pm to
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ou and I have different assessments. SMU was dominating the game vs Penn State in yardage, time of possession, etc. But yeah, when your QB throws 2 pick 6's, blows an easy TD throw on 4th down, and has another INT at the Penn State 19 yard line....all in the 1st half I might add, you are going to lose the game. I quit watching at halftime but IMO SMU had the better team...IF they had a QB who could tell his team's uniforms from the opponent's. SMU would beat S Carolina with a decent QB...but they don't have one. My brother said he looked great during the regular season...he watched all their games. BTW, South Carolina would NOT run over SMU's defense...no way


And maybe just maybe the reason their qb was good all year and now wasn’t good is because they finally played a good defense.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 4:22 pm to
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And maybe just maybe the reason their qb was good all year and now wasn’t good is because they finally played a good defense.


Actually, I brought that up to the my brother because I thought of that also. He pointed out that his mistakes were pretty much unforced errors and they were. There were no Penn State defenders in his face at all...he simply made poor decisions and poor passes. He claims that he was not making those decisions in any of the regular season games. I did see a lack of poise...so perhaps playing in front of 100K + fans at Penn State was one issue. Once again, I can't comment on his earlier play. But for anyone who says that SMU otherwise didn't have talent across the field on both offense and defense IMO isn't a great judge of personnel. SMU other than the QB was dominating the game in the 1st half. Penn State was held on 2 4th down conversions for example.
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