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re: The transition of DJ Welter to KB will look a lot like AJ to BH in hindsight.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:47 pm to Gray Tiger
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:47 pm to Gray Tiger
quote:I saw the output and production level go from 1 to a 9. So unless Beckwith was a 0 that went straight to a 9 the coaches missed on this
Please tell us what you saw in the practices, position meetings, etc. that made you come to this conclusion.
Thank you.
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:05 pm to lsupride87
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I saw the output and production level go from 1 to a 9. So unless Beckwith was a 0 that went straight to a 9 the coaches missed on this
agree completely. Ill expand and say that if Welter was at least "Serviceable", hed probably still be playing and we wouldnt be nearly as good as we are. It only becuase it was that bad that the switch was made.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:22 pm to BobBoucher
I hope the transition analogy is true for the QBs. I don't want to bash DJ, I'm sure he was trying his best. Maybe he did know the playbook on D better, just didn't have the skills to execute his part. Anyway, it has been rectified and KB made plenty of mistakes earlier this year as well, but damn he has it figured out now.
Frankly, if BH doesn't figure this out by next year, LSU has a problem. Not saying AJ cannot get better, but by all indications he is busting his tail off to be better now(very commendable).
Frankly, if BH doesn't figure this out by next year, LSU has a problem. Not saying AJ cannot get better, but by all indications he is busting his tail off to be better now(very commendable).
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:36 pm to mwade91383
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I think a lot of people were hoping this transition would happen sooner but given the way the MLB position unfolded this season I have a ton of confidence that's exactly how the QB position will as well moving forward.
So what your telling me is for the 2nd time this season we are going to have a situation where the coaching staff looks retarded for playing the wrong guy all year, because he was an upper class-man aka "knows the playbook and does the little things in practice"
Posted on 11/12/14 at 1:37 pm to Tgrluv
quote:oh, there are few folks on the rant that will let you know very quickly.
Missed that little detail
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:00 pm to CoachChappy
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So what your telling me is for the 2nd time this season we are going to have a situation where the coaching staff looks retarded for playing the wrong guy all year, because he was an upper class-man aka "knows the playbook and does the little things in practice"
That's the stupid **** I'm talking about. You don't know what's happening at practice at all and you don't know how quickly or slowly he (BH) is evolving. You're statement is basing it on the assumption that he's ready right now and coaches are just arbitrarily holding him out. Despite the melt on here when AJ under performs, it's just not true, and there's no logical reason to think that way.
I for one am of the mindset the coaching staff likes their jobs and want to do everything to win that they can. Sometimes I think that simple truth is lost on some of the idiots on this board.
Just like with KB, I'm sure the coaches have good reason to keep BH off the field until the light goes on and he's ready to be the man.
Maybe to you that makes them look stupid, but to everybody who knows anything about anything having to do with football, its them doing their jobs.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:55 pm to lsufan_26
Why?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:38 pm to mwade91383
just think if we had Brandon Harris in a wide open pro style offense like Alabama runs? Will never happen at LSU but would be off the hook crazy hard to defense
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:53 pm to mwade91383
If this is true then hopefully Miles doesn't ruin next season like he did the past couple with Welter at MLB.
If this is true we need to make BH the starter immediately and through game 1 of next year.
If we wait until game 4-5 and one or two losses...we will just be waiting until "next year" another year...
Is any unit "young" next year...how will our OLine be? Any canned excuses we can prepare ourselves for other than coaching incompetence?
If this is true we need to make BH the starter immediately and through game 1 of next year.
If we wait until game 4-5 and one or two losses...we will just be waiting until "next year" another year...
Is any unit "young" next year...how will our OLine be? Any canned excuses we can prepare ourselves for other than coaching incompetence?
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:35 am to mwade91383
Harris needs a year of SEC offseason strength training under his belt before they give him the reins.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:08 am to NotRight37
During the Welter-Beckwith transition. Beckwith was getting needed playing experience to develop. That is not the case with Harris and is problematic.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:10 am to Hiyoka
They'll come up with excuse and swear by it.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 9:23 am to mwade91383
I'm not convinced that Harris is a good as everyone is hyping him to be. Lee was the "next great QB" until he wasn't. Jefferson was the next great QB until he wasn't. Jennings was the next great QB after Ark. It took all of one game for the fanbase to move on to the next great hope. In LSU's offense I don't think he will be much better than any of those guys (some good, some bad, but mostly mediocre performances)
However, if the coaching staff thinks Harris is a great player and wants him to be LSU's QB to start next season then there is no use in leaving him on the bench now. He can practice, watch from the sidelines, study in the film room all he wants. There is NO substitute for game experience. Playing is the only way he will truly get better. Really, there is not much difference between 9-3 and 7-5. Both records mean you won't play for a championship and you'll finish the season in a meaningless exhibition game.
However, if the coaching staff thinks Harris is a great player and wants him to be LSU's QB to start next season then there is no use in leaving him on the bench now. He can practice, watch from the sidelines, study in the film room all he wants. There is NO substitute for game experience. Playing is the only way he will truly get better. Really, there is not much difference between 9-3 and 7-5. Both records mean you won't play for a championship and you'll finish the season in a meaningless exhibition game.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:22 am to Tgrluv
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I WATCHED BRANDON PLAY AGAINST MY SON ALL THROUGH HS, HE HAS THE MOST IMPRESSIVE ARM STRENGH I HAVE EVER SEEN IN COLLEGE (INCLUDING METT) WHEN HE GETS THE SYSTEM DOWN THEY WILL PLAY HIM, AND WE WILL HAVE A MORE BALANCE ATTACK. WE ARE GONNA KICK SOME SERIOUS arse
Scream all you want bitch and we could care less what you saw
By your own admission that he is the man, why not pkay him this year and lose 3 or 4 with him maturing, instead of playing the lesser talent who still loses?
You're getting the losses anyway, so why not go with the future and expedite the learning and maturing process?
It makes ZERO sense to ever play the less talented player AT LRAST HALF THE TIME!!!
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:41 am to mwade91383
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You don't know what's happening at practice at all and you don't know how quickly or slowly he (BH) is evolving. You're statement is basing it on the assumption that he's ready right now and coaches are just arbitrarily holding him out
Now that's the stupid **** I'm talking about.
You are correct I do not know what is happening at practice. I can only evaluate with what I am seeing on the field. I saw Welter getting BLOWN UP consistently. KB came in and it stopped. Now, I am seeing AJ not be able to throw the ball which last time I checked was kind of important for a QB to be able to do.
You can talk about practice all day long, and it still doesn't matter. Anyone who has ever played sports knows the term "Practice ALL-American"
Last, I'm not assuming anything about the coaching staff's thought process. I'm stating what it looks like from an outside observer. 1 QB can throw and 1 cannot.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:42 am to Alt26
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Lee was the "next great QB" until he wasn't.
No one ever said this. He was recruited as the 4th/5th best QB in TX his recruiting year.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:00 pm to GeeOH
lot of punks on this site, and your probably at the top of the list BITCH!
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:03 pm to Tgrluv
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lot of punks on this site, and your probably at the top of the list BITCH!
I'd rather be a punk than just dumb enough to suggest we should lose with a lesser talented player...for someone to do that would mean they don't know a thing about sports.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 12:37 pm to mwade91383
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I for one am of the mindset the coaching staff likes their jobs and want to do everything to win that they can. Sometimes I think that simple truth is lost on some of the idiots on this board.
I certainly want to keep the same mindset like you do, because imagine if our coaches are as confused as most of us, i.e. don't know how to solve the current QB situation ...
; then the only difference between the coaches and us is they get paid (handsomely!).
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