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The standard at LSU should be 10-2.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:57 am
In the "expanded playoff/NIL" era, the realistic standard for LSU football should be 10-2 (or better). That's the floor by which we should judge the administration, athletic department, athletic foundation, and head coach. Why not 12-0 or 11-1, well, shite happens. The ball bounces the wrong way, a horrible call by the officials, the team doesn't get up that particular Saturday, any number of reasons. You account for all of that with up to two losses.
Anything less than 10-2, we're not meeting the standard. How many less than 10-2 regular seasons are needed before pink slips are handed out? Depends on the internal variables, but that's for another thread.
What the standard should not be is "making the playoff." That's an outcome driven by variables that for the most part, LSU doesn't control. Other leagues, their preferential (or not) conference scheduling, officiating, balls bouncing one way or the other, committee/media bias, corruption, cheating, etc.
LSU can only control what LSU can control. A big piece of that is scheduling.
In this era, there is ZERO incentive to play any out-of-conference, marquee matchups on the road, at home, or the dreaded neutral sites. None.
We all know Birmingham is going to Birmingham, and that is mostly out of our control, except for being given preferential treatment around "night games" at home, when feasible. Which, in a batch of irony, contributes to fans leaving early. Other than that, we have no control over conference scheduling. As such, OOC scheduling should be as vanilla as possible, while also trying to juice the crowd, if we can. So, with four OOC games, it should probably look something like this, every season:
All four OOC games at home.
This should include one FCS, two mediocre G5s, and one mediocre P4.
The FCS and one G5 should come from in state, so put them on a rotation.
The other G5 and P4 should be mediocre, but with some attribute that may drive fan interest, be it name-ID, a controversial head coach, storyline, etc. Examples of who not to bring in: the likes of Middle Tennessee State and Ball State.
Lastly, no option teams.
Sample Year A:
McNeese
Louisiana Tech
Memphis
Stanford
Sample Year B:
Grambling
UL Lafayette
Tulsa
Houston
Really, wanted to put two things out there for discussion. One, our standard should be 10-2. Second, in this era, we need to produce a more favorable scheduling structure.

Anything less than 10-2, we're not meeting the standard. How many less than 10-2 regular seasons are needed before pink slips are handed out? Depends on the internal variables, but that's for another thread.
What the standard should not be is "making the playoff." That's an outcome driven by variables that for the most part, LSU doesn't control. Other leagues, their preferential (or not) conference scheduling, officiating, balls bouncing one way or the other, committee/media bias, corruption, cheating, etc.
LSU can only control what LSU can control. A big piece of that is scheduling.
In this era, there is ZERO incentive to play any out-of-conference, marquee matchups on the road, at home, or the dreaded neutral sites. None.
We all know Birmingham is going to Birmingham, and that is mostly out of our control, except for being given preferential treatment around "night games" at home, when feasible. Which, in a batch of irony, contributes to fans leaving early. Other than that, we have no control over conference scheduling. As such, OOC scheduling should be as vanilla as possible, while also trying to juice the crowd, if we can. So, with four OOC games, it should probably look something like this, every season:
All four OOC games at home.
This should include one FCS, two mediocre G5s, and one mediocre P4.
The FCS and one G5 should come from in state, so put them on a rotation.
The other G5 and P4 should be mediocre, but with some attribute that may drive fan interest, be it name-ID, a controversial head coach, storyline, etc. Examples of who not to bring in: the likes of Middle Tennessee State and Ball State.
Lastly, no option teams.
Sample Year A:
McNeese
Louisiana Tech
Memphis
Stanford
Sample Year B:
Grambling
UL Lafayette
Tulsa
Houston
Really, wanted to put two things out there for discussion. One, our standard should be 10-2. Second, in this era, we need to produce a more favorable scheduling structure.

Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:58 am to Smalls
Didn't read alm of that but do agree with the headline. 10-2 should be the median.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:59 am to Smalls
I refuse to believe some of you wake up at 9am on a beautiful Sunday and dream up these manifestos.
Can you people enjoy anything? Good lord.
Can you people enjoy anything? Good lord.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:01 am to Smalls
I don’t mind an away OOC game every other year. I think fans enjoy traveling to away games against OOC teams.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:02 am to Smalls
quote:Remember this quote?
We all know that the expectation has been raised...We all know that we aren't OK with winning 10.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:02 am to alajones
quote:
I think fans enjoy traveling to away games against OOC teams.
Sure. At least it should be on campus, and again, against a mediocre P4 team.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:06 am to Swagga
Are you enjoying that Vandy win? Send me the link for the banner you’re buying
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:06 am to Smalls
Not gonna even bother reading that wall of babble
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:10 am to Smalls
Anything over three paragraphs should be automatically banned
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:16 am to LSUTIGERS8181
quote:
Are you enjoying that Vandy win? Send me the link for the banner you’re buying
Yea I am, because I only get so many LSU games a year and I’m going to enjoy the ones they win. Especially after the last month.
It’s possible to enjoy the win eventhough the season has been disappointing.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:21 am to Smalls
For 130 years of football played at LSU, we have won 10 or more games 16 times.
Two of those sixteen seasons under Kelly....
Two of those sixteen seasons under Kelly....
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:28 am to Smalls
The standard should be top 12 playoffs no matter the record. There should be no excuse to not be top 10 with the talent in this state
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:34 am to Smalls
Not reading all of that rubbish
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:37 am to GeauxGriz
quote:
Two of those sixteen seasons under Kelly....
…and 7 were under Miles, but people here ran him out of town.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:34 pm to Smalls
There is WAY more than ZERO incentive for an opening game OOC opponent against a brand name school. Start with money ! Then national exposure for the teams involved as many times it’s the only game being televised !
Besides , if you lose that game and win the SEC ( maybe even come out second) you’re in the playoffs 100%!
Besides , if you lose that game and win the SEC ( maybe even come out second) you’re in the playoffs 100%!
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:45 pm to Smalls
Agreed.
The GOAT Les Miles achieved this SIX times. We’ve only done it once (2019) since his departure.
The GOAT Les Miles achieved this SIX times. We’ve only done it once (2019) since his departure.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:57 pm to Smalls
You have it backwards. The standard is playoffs. While it will take a minimum record of 10-2 most yrs to make the playoffs, the actual record doesn't matter. If it takes 11-1 to make the playoffs thats the min standard. Same for 8-4. If thats what gets you in, thats the min standard. Obviously, the chances of that are slim and none.
One loss was the accepted minimum standard to make the BCS at one time. No one gives a shite we lost 2 games in 2007. We got in the BCS game. Thats all that mattered.
One loss was the accepted minimum standard to make the BCS at one time. No one gives a shite we lost 2 games in 2007. We got in the BCS game. Thats all that mattered.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 3:48 pm to Smalls
quote:
The standard at LSU should be 10-2.
In the "expanded playoff/NIL" era, the realistic standard for LSU football should be 10-2 (or better). That's the floor by which we should judge the administration, athletic department, athletic foundation, and head coach. Why not 12-0 or 11-1, well, shite happens. The ball bounces the wrong way, a horrible call by the officials, the team doesn't get up that particular Saturday, any number of reasons. You account for all of that with up to two losses.
Anything less than 10-2, we're not meeting the standard. How many less than 10-2 regular seasons are needed before pink slips are handed out? Depends on the internal variables, but that's for another thread.
I know people throw this saying out a lot, friend, but this may be one of the dumbest posts I have literally ever seen on here. You are living in fricking fantasyland, my man. We have never been who you think we are. We’ve had, what 3 streaks of 3 seasons of 10+ wins.
frick it, I can’t even. Can’t reason with somebody who doesn’t live in real life.
I mean for you to post THIS thread, in THIS season—after YESTERDAY’S games, I mean, I literally can’t even.
What’s so sad though, is that you’re not intelligent enough to have not started this thread and expose your lack of intelligence, but you’ve also got that “I demand excellence, while y’all settle for mediocrity” fake superior, little dick energy going. You have actually convinced yourself that not only are you smarter than us, but you’re morally superior because of your “high standard” demands.

What’s even sadder is you probably have a lot of people agreeing with you. And you’re just not existing in real life.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 3:51 pm to Smalls
When has 10 wins EVER been “the standard” or regularly achieved? Oh, i know…. Les Miles era … and first 2 years of BK. Wise up.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 3:54 pm to Smalls
Kelly was thrust into a situation where there was no standard in place to maintain.
Unless you think firing a coach and having a leftover roster of 38 scholarship players is the standard
Unless you think firing a coach and having a leftover roster of 38 scholarship players is the standard
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