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The standard at LSU should be 10-2.

Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10260 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:57 am
In the "expanded playoff/NIL" era, the realistic standard for LSU football should be 10-2 (or better). That's the floor by which we should judge the administration, athletic department, athletic foundation, and head coach. Why not 12-0 or 11-1, well, shite happens. The ball bounces the wrong way, a horrible call by the officials, the team doesn't get up that particular Saturday, any number of reasons. You account for all of that with up to two losses.

Anything less than 10-2, we're not meeting the standard. How many less than 10-2 regular seasons are needed before pink slips are handed out? Depends on the internal variables, but that's for another thread.

What the standard should not be is "making the playoff." That's an outcome driven by variables that for the most part, LSU doesn't control. Other leagues, their preferential (or not) conference scheduling, officiating, balls bouncing one way or the other, committee/media bias, corruption, cheating, etc.

LSU can only control what LSU can control. A big piece of that is scheduling.

In this era, there is ZERO incentive to play any out-of-conference, marquee matchups on the road, at home, or the dreaded neutral sites. None.

We all know Birmingham is going to Birmingham, and that is mostly out of our control, except for being given preferential treatment around "night games" at home, when feasible. Which, in a batch of irony, contributes to fans leaving early. Other than that, we have no control over conference scheduling. As such, OOC scheduling should be as vanilla as possible, while also trying to juice the crowd, if we can. So, with four OOC games, it should probably look something like this, every season:

All four OOC games at home.
This should include one FCS, two mediocre G5s, and one mediocre P4.
The FCS and one G5 should come from in state, so put them on a rotation.
The other G5 and P4 should be mediocre, but with some attribute that may drive fan interest, be it name-ID, a controversial head coach, storyline, etc. Examples of who not to bring in: the likes of Middle Tennessee State and Ball State.
Lastly, no option teams.

Sample Year A:
McNeese
Louisiana Tech
Memphis
Stanford

Sample Year B:
Grambling
UL Lafayette
Tulsa
Houston

Really, wanted to put two things out there for discussion. One, our standard should be 10-2. Second, in this era, we need to produce a more favorable scheduling structure.

Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13120 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:58 am to
Didn't read alm of that but do agree with the headline. 10-2 should be the median.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
17456 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:59 am to
I refuse to believe some of you wake up at 9am on a beautiful Sunday and dream up these manifestos.


Can you people enjoy anything? Good lord.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35288 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:01 am to
I don’t mind an away OOC game every other year. I think fans enjoy traveling to away games against OOC teams.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8149 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:02 am to
quote:

We all know that the expectation has been raised...We all know that we aren't OK with winning 10.
Remember this quote?
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10260 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:02 am to
quote:

I think fans enjoy traveling to away games against OOC teams.


Sure. At least it should be on campus, and again, against a mediocre P4 team.
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
11101 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:06 am to
Are you enjoying that Vandy win? Send me the link for the banner you’re buying
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
9034 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:06 am to
Not gonna even bother reading that wall of babble
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32739 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:10 am to
Anything over three paragraphs should be automatically banned
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
17456 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Are you enjoying that Vandy win? Send me the link for the banner you’re buying


Yea I am, because I only get so many LSU games a year and I’m going to enjoy the ones they win. Especially after the last month.

It’s possible to enjoy the win eventhough the season has been disappointing.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by GeauxGriz
God's country.
Member since Mar 2006
386 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:21 am to
For 130 years of football played at LSU, we have won 10 or more games 16 times.

Two of those sixteen seasons under Kelly....
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18047 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:28 am to
The standard should be top 12 playoffs no matter the record. There should be no excuse to not be top 10 with the talent in this state
Posted by Billy Johnson
Member since Oct 2024
432 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:34 am to
Not reading all of that rubbish
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7608 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Two of those sixteen seasons under Kelly....


…and 7 were under Miles, but people here ran him out of town.
Posted by Brlaf77
Member since Sep 2024
195 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:34 pm to
There is WAY more than ZERO incentive for an opening game OOC opponent against a brand name school. Start with money ! Then national exposure for the teams involved as many times it’s the only game being televised !
Besides , if you lose that game and win the SEC ( maybe even come out second) you’re in the playoffs 100%!
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
12947 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:45 pm to
Agreed.

The GOAT Les Miles achieved this SIX times. We’ve only done it once (2019) since his departure.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10719 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 2:57 pm to
You have it backwards. The standard is playoffs. While it will take a minimum record of 10-2 most yrs to make the playoffs, the actual record doesn't matter. If it takes 11-1 to make the playoffs thats the min standard. Same for 8-4. If thats what gets you in, thats the min standard. Obviously, the chances of that are slim and none.

One loss was the accepted minimum standard to make the BCS at one time. No one gives a shite we lost 2 games in 2007. We got in the BCS game. Thats all that mattered.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
61232 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

The standard at LSU should be 10-2.

In the "expanded playoff/NIL" era, the realistic standard for LSU football should be 10-2 (or better). That's the floor by which we should judge the administration, athletic department, athletic foundation, and head coach. Why not 12-0 or 11-1, well, shite happens. The ball bounces the wrong way, a horrible call by the officials, the team doesn't get up that particular Saturday, any number of reasons. You account for all of that with up to two losses.

Anything less than 10-2, we're not meeting the standard. How many less than 10-2 regular seasons are needed before pink slips are handed out? Depends on the internal variables, but that's for another thread.


I know people throw this saying out a lot, friend, but this may be one of the dumbest posts I have literally ever seen on here. You are living in fricking fantasyland, my man. We have never been who you think we are. We’ve had, what 3 streaks of 3 seasons of 10+ wins.

frick it, I can’t even. Can’t reason with somebody who doesn’t live in real life.
I mean for you to post THIS thread, in THIS season—after YESTERDAY’S games, I mean, I literally can’t even.

What’s so sad though, is that you’re not intelligent enough to have not started this thread and expose your lack of intelligence, but you’ve also got that “I demand excellence, while y’all settle for mediocrity” fake superior, little dick energy going. You have actually convinced yourself that not only are you smarter than us, but you’re morally superior because of your “high standard” demands.

What’s even sadder is you probably have a lot of people agreeing with you. And you’re just not existing in real life.

Posted by John cocktoasten
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2018
400 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 3:51 pm to
When has 10 wins EVER been “the standard” or regularly achieved? Oh, i know…. Les Miles era … and first 2 years of BK. Wise up.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285159 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 3:54 pm to
Kelly was thrust into a situation where there was no standard in place to maintain.

Unless you think firing a coach and having a leftover roster of 38 scholarship players is the standard
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