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The Roster is on O
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:52 am
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:52 am
We lost a lot of talent last year. Bama, Clemson and OSU lose large amounts every year. Hell, LSU loses a lot every year.
The deficiencies on the O and D line, at LB and in the secondary fall squarely on Orgeron. He was the lead recruiter before he was the HC.
Having a losing season after winning a title doesn’t happen very often in the history of college football.
This is on O. If we aren’t contending for the SEC next year, he should be feeling extreme heat going into 2022.
The deficiencies on the O and D line, at LB and in the secondary fall squarely on Orgeron. He was the lead recruiter before he was the HC.
Having a losing season after winning a title doesn’t happen very often in the history of college football.
This is on O. If we aren’t contending for the SEC next year, he should be feeling extreme heat going into 2022.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:55 am to DeltaDoc
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Having a losing season after winning a title doesn’t happen very often in the history of college football.
In a normal year this is an 8-4 or 7-5 team but point taken
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:56 am to DeltaDoc
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We lost a lot of talent last year. Bama, Clemson and OSU lose large amounts every year. Hell, LSU loses a lot every year.
Stop saying this. It’s 100% inaccurate.
Clemson losses 5-7 guys a year.
LSU lost SEVENTEEN.
And that’s not counting 5 undrafted practice squad guys.
And that’s not even factoring in the issues presented by Covid this offseason.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:56 am to DeltaDoc
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This is on O.
Agreed, but the amount of personnel losses we have seen from last season to now is honestly unprecedented. Nevertheless, this falls on the head coach.
Here's the bottom line... If we are back to 10+ wins next season, the 2020 season will be forgotten rather quickly as a "fake covid season." However, if we are 7-5 or 8-4 next season, 2020 will be remembered as the beginning of the decline, and the beginning of the end for Coach O.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:57 am to DeltaDoc
Spoiler alert. Those programs didn’t become what they are overnight. LSU is not on their level YET. If you thought this after last season, that’s your own fault.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:58 am to The Pirate King
Clemson and Ohio State also aren't in the same division as Bama.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:58 am to Lester Earl
Correct me if I’m wrong but Bama, multiple times, has had 4-5 first rounders in the last decade.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:01 am to DeltaDoc
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Correct me if I’m wrong but Bama, multiple times, has had 4-5 first rounders in the last decade.
We tied the record for most players drafted, had 3 other key players quit right before the season started.
There is no comparison to another championship team in history when it comes to the attrition that has occurred at LSU since last year.
And that's before even discussing losing Brady, Aranda, and our starting QB having a season-ending injury by game 4 of the season.
HOWEVER, we should not be a 3-7 team. We should be a 5-5 team at minimum.
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:01 am to Eat Your Crow
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Here's the bottom line... If we are back to 10+ wins next season, the 2020 season will be forgotten rather quickly as a "fake covid season." However, if we are 7-5 or 8-4 next season, 2020 will be remembered as the beginning of the decline, and the beginning of the end for Coach O.
This is the truth of the situation. We can all argue whether this year is the real O or last year was the real O but we won’t truly know until we see next year.
If next year looks like this year though, you have to fire O so that the next coach has a lot of talent to work with. You can’t let it drag on like CLM and leave the next guy with a cluster frick of a roster like O inherited in 2017.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:02 am to DeltaDoc
Sure.
Bama has never lost 17 kids in an offseason where you replaced both coordinators who couldn’t actually coach said players
Bama is also on a planet all by themselves. LSU is not bama & never will be as long as Saban is there.
Bama has never lost 17 kids in an offseason where you replaced both coordinators who couldn’t actually coach said players
Bama is also on a planet all by themselves. LSU is not bama & never will be as long as Saban is there.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:03 am to Eat Your Crow
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HOWEVER, we should not be a 3-7 team. We should be a 5-5 team at minimum.
On a normal schedule, LSU is 7-5 or 8-4. You play cupcakes early, get the kinks out, and you start to see improvement like the defense has shown the last two weeks.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:04 am to Lester Earl
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LSU lost SEVENTEEN.
I thought 19 starters? And 36 or so total. We have the fewest scholarship players in the P5 at this point. It's not comparable. But the 2018 class being so thin is on O
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:09 am to DeltaDoc
So tell me what year LSU lost 25-35 players (they only have around 68 scholarship players compared to a limit of 85) from one year to the next?
In that same year did they have a worldwide pandemic?
Also at the same time was it available for players to play and the year not count towards eligibility and or opt-out if they choose to start preparing for the draft?
That all said the Oline should not be this bad, but that is up to O to find an Oline coach.
Also, the passing game Coordinator has to go. They are not pushing the ball down the field and that is allowing Defense to play the game 10 yards off the ball.
LSU has never had a year like this before.
In that same year did they have a worldwide pandemic?
Also at the same time was it available for players to play and the year not count towards eligibility and or opt-out if they choose to start preparing for the draft?
That all said the Oline should not be this bad, but that is up to O to find an Oline coach.
Also, the passing game Coordinator has to go. They are not pushing the ball down the field and that is allowing Defense to play the game 10 yards off the ball.
LSU has never had a year like this before.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:09 am to DeltaDoc
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Bama, Clemson and OSU lose large amounts every year. Hell, LSU loses a lot every year.
None of your examples are even close to what LSU lost last year. It’s funny how many stupid mother friggers think that what LSU lost last year is commonplace. That Bama, OSU and Clemson lose that every year.
Please find one - ONE - example of a team losing even 75% of the talent LSU lost last year.
Round, Pick, Player, Position, Team
1, 1 - Joe Burrow, QB, Bengals
1, 20 - K'Lavon Chaisson, OLB, Jaguars
1, 22 - Justin Jefferson, WR, Vikings
1, 28 - Patrick Queen, LB, Ravens
1, 32 - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, Chiefs
2, 44 - Grant Delpit, S, Browns
2, 61 - Kristian Fulton, CB, Titans
3, 69 - Damien Lewis, OG, Seahawks
3, 83 - Lloyd Cushenberry III, C, Broncos
3, 97 - Jacob Phillips, LB, Browns
4, 108 - Saahdiq Charles, OT, Redskins
4, 131 - Rashard Lawrence, DT, Cardinals
6, 185 - Blake Ferguson, LS, Dolphins
7, 251 - Stephen Sullivan, TE, Seahawks
LSU's Free Agent Signings (as of 4:45 p.m. CT on April 26; confirmed by player representatives)
Derrick Dillon, WR, Giants
Michael Divinity Jr., LB, Buccaneers
Breiden Fehoko, DT, Chargers
Adrian Magee, OL, Saints
Thaddeus Moss, TE, Redskins
Badara Traore, OT, Bears
Then Chase, Shelvin, and Vincent, and now Ika, opted out. Then our QB gets hurt.
So 19 players the NFL considered at least worthy of a tryout, followed by five critical starters. Oh yeah, Bama, OSU and Clemson see THAT every year!
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:12 am to DeltaDoc
I actually slightly disagree with this. Aside from the OL we have recruited fine at other positions. Question is why aren’t these guys being developed better?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:13 am to cj2002
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So tell me what year LSU lost 25-35 players (they only have around 68 scholarship players compared to a limit of 85) from one year to the next?
O said they have 69 scholarship players now but I don't see how that's possible with Ika and Moore leaving unless they gave some walk-ons scholarships
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:14 am to Mithridates6
Yea, it’s like 34 when you consider transfers
Consider, just from like August,
LSU lost
McClendon
Ika
Shelvin
Justin Thomas
This was the starting DL most of the summer
Then Marcel Brooks transferred, he was a projected starting LB, too
Even with a poor 18’ class, it’s hard to out recruit that
Consider, just from like August,
LSU lost
McClendon
Ika
Shelvin
Justin Thomas
This was the starting DL most of the summer
Then Marcel Brooks transferred, he was a projected starting LB, too
Even with a poor 18’ class, it’s hard to out recruit that
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:15 am to DeltaDoc
How are so many people forgetting how many roster spots we actually lost. After the draft and opt outs, nobody has every been as gutted as we were in the offseason. Put COVID restrictions on top of that with no spring practice and voila.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:16 am to Lester Earl
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On a normal schedule, LSU is 7-5 or 8-4. You play cupcakes early, get the kinks out, and you start to see improvement like the defense has shown the last two weeks.
Yeah. Probably 4-4 in conference, so it would have depended on whether or not we beat Texas.
Which, judging by our early season performance this year, we probably wouldn't have beaten Texas.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:17 am to Eat Your Crow
You think we should’ve lost to MS State and Mizzou?
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