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re: The problem with the logic that Les wasn't calling a spike
Posted on 11/22/09 at 10:55 pm to TIsuGGER
Posted on 11/22/09 at 10:55 pm to TIsuGGER
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Really? So SEC refs havent been a problem for LSU, ever? They rule Ole Miss possession, game over.
And if they review it, GUESS WHAT? TIME STOPS!!!
It's amazing how far the pro-Miles folks have stooped to find a way to defend him. As if Miles making an arm motion of any sort would have any effect at all on what the refs call. That's almost as retarded as Les not having the field goal team ready or him letting GC call 3 pass plays when we were already in FG range.
The end of that game was a complete clusterf*ck and this "he wasn't spiking it" thing is just a poor attempt by the sycophants to distract from what is becoming more obvious every week: Les never was very smart and he's only becoming more of a deer in the headlights as the program degrades from what it was when he got here. He no longer has those old guys to cover up for his boneheadedness.
The players he has coached from day 1 look lost. His assistant coaches are getting worse by the game. He sounds less intelligent with every passing week.
This is now 2 years in a row that Ole Miss has been clearly better than LSU. Not just lucky to beat us, but better than us. Blaming RP for that is just silly.
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:00 pm to TIsuGGER
When did an official signal Ole Miss ball? He came in immediately and signaled to stop the clock waving his arms over his head. You still are missing the simple concept that even if they award the ball to Ole Miss it is AUTOMATICALLY reviewed by the booth. Your head coach has to know what he has control over. The point of this thread is to show that even if this flaky theory of him signalling that Toliver is down is correct, he still messed up completely. I believe I have done that.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:02 pm to TIsuGGER
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TIsuGGER
you are putting on a clinic. Ppl still say there was a spike call? Wow. The very definition of ranter. And to think some are actually defending the ability of SEC refs as a way of showing Les to be wrong. They screw up that that call, and its ballgame for sure.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:02 pm to TIsuGGER
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Did I call you a liar yet, cause you are. No signal from any camera angle came until after the Ole Miss player STOOD UP WITH THE BALL. One to two seconds after Miles was yelling.
My proof? TT came down with :03 on the clock, yet the clock didnt stop until :01. The ref ran to the play with the stop clock signal, looked at another ref, then signaled 1st down. Which means Miles had been yelling at least 2 seconds or more before the signal. Heres two camera angles, showing no 1st down signal, until after all players are on their feet.
If he was doing this (claiming Toliver was down), WHY WAS HE DOING IT? It has no impact on whether the official will call it a fumble or down.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:02 pm to RobbBobb
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you are putting on a clinic.
bwaahaahaahaaa!
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:03 pm to ThePistol
Could they all be signally Tolliver to stay down and play hurt?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:03 pm to RobbBobb
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They screw up that that call, and its ballgame for sure.
So good thing Les was jumping around on the sideline telling the refs his guy was down, that was almost another blown call!!
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:04 pm to ThePistol
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The point of this thread is to show that even if this flaky theory of him signalling that Toliver is down is correct, he still messed up completely
Miles needed that review. He was begging for a review. Would have bought the time needed to have the FG team on. How do you not see that?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:05 pm to RobbBobb
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Miles needed that review. He was begging for a review. Would have bought the time needed to have the FG team on. How do you not see that?
Or call timeout with 26 seconds left, or call run plays inside FG range, or....
He should never beg the officials for a stoppage.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:05 pm to RobbBobb
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Miles needed that review. He was begging for a review.
So he would have to be arguing that it was the Ole Miss player who was down with the ball
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:06 pm to RobbBobb
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you are putting on a clinic.
Some here just love to bask in the tard.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:06 pm to RobbBobb
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He was begging for a review.
The story continues to change. First he was indicating that Toliver was down, now he was begging for a review?
geez...
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Would have bought the time needed to have the FG team on.
That timeout (which was called 16 seconds too late) also provided ample amount of time to have the field goal unit ready.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:06 pm to Tiger4Ever
RobbBobb, I am so happy you are still here. Why if they award the ball to Ole Miss on the field is it ball game for us for sure. It is an automatic booth review and Toliver did not even come close to fumbling. You and your logic to defend Miles are so far blown. Again, even if he is signaling Toliver is down this is a complete fail of managing this situation. He has no control over this call.
By the way if he is putting on a clinic I see why you seem satisfied with the end game management.
By the way if he is putting on a clinic I see why you seem satisfied with the end game management.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:06 pm to RobbBobb
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you are putting on a clinic. Ppl still say there was a spike call? Wow. The very definition of ranter. And to think some are actually defending the ability of SEC refs as a way of showing Les to be wrong. They screw up that that call, and its ballgame for sure.
Do you really contend that Leslie's hyperactivity on the sidelines was going to effect the referees in any way? Do you really think that his time was better spent "telling the refs that it wasn't a fumble" than telling his QB what to do? Than getting the FG team on the field?
The defense of Miles as some sort of top coach has always been stupid, now it's gotten beyond parody.
In fact, if he was motioning to the refs, that is even worse than him telling JJ to spike it. Why in the world would any coach be motioning to the refs at that point? Could there be any more futile action to take? Only a complete moron would do that.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:07 pm to ThePistol
Well, to all the people saying this. They are right, he WAS throwing a tantrum to the refs saying that Tolliver was down and it was not a fumble, WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING THE F#$KING FIELD GOAL UNIT READY! Either way you look at it, he was a MORON!
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:08 pm to Tiger4Ever
t4e, you realize with his new logic that Les would have been yelling that the Ole Miss player had the ball...
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:08 pm to ThePistol
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He was begging for a review.
The only way he gets a review is if they rule it is Ole Miss' ball. This means that he is not saying that Toliver is down and it is LSU ball. Wow. Just wow.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:10 pm to LSUsmartass
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t4e, you realize with his new logic that Les would have been yelling that the Ole Miss player had the ball...
I admit, I am having trouble keeping up with all of the excuses.
So far, there is only one reasonable explanation...
Les Miles is an asshat.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:10 pm to ThePistol
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The only way he gets a review is if they rule it is Ole Miss' ball.
Well they ruled that it was LSU ball, first down...which means Les was screaming Ole Miss had the ball and he was down
Posted on 11/22/09 at 11:10 pm to uway
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uway
Let me make this simple
The plan was an EZ Hail Mary. JJ didnt get it there. When LSU caught the ball with time on the clock, an Ole Miss player came out of the scrum with the ball. Miles had to have that ball back. Period. He then turned and asked where was the FG. No one knew. But the time ran out before we could put the ball in play.Moot point.
Miles coaching did lose the game, he did not call for a spike. However, some of you are as dumb as he is at this point.
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