re: The problem is not with our offense is...

There is no problem with the team being committed to the run.

With our strong defense we need to be able to move the ball on the ground and eat up clock.

That being said, we also have to have the threat of a deep, intermediate, and short passing attack to keep the opposing defense honest.

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Why? Because you have to control the clock and keep the other offense off the field

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When you fail to constantly convert 3rd and 5 you dont have much control of the clock now do you?

Exactly. Take the MSU game as an example. We were driving the ball up and down the field on their defense (which is pretty good by the way) pretty much all night but just weren't able to punch it in in the first half. And remember, JJ was making plays on third down with his feet, converting two third and longs and a couple of other third downs on the first couple of drives. And we did have a couple of deep balls to keep the defense honest. So, what else are we supposed to do? In the second half, once the game was pretty much locked up (I actually felt pretty good once we got the third FG; I really didn't think they would score more than 7), you run the ball. If Blue doesn't fumble late in the fourth, we would have held onto the ball and run the clock out.

Against UNC, we were more open in the first half and grabbed a 20-point lead (after being down by 10 remember). We drove down the field to start the third and fumbled away a sure TD on that drive. We drove again later in the third and gave away a TD on a holding call. UNC was dead until that fluke-arse 97 yarder against our great but green freshmen. I will admit the offense got tight when the game got tight but was still in position to lock up the game until the fumble by Ridley (remember he picked up the first down on that run and all we would have had to do is kneel on the ball after that).

Against Vandy, we ran for 280 yards. Why the hell would you be passing if you're running like that? Just to tempt fate?

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He is content on being a middle of the road SEC team,

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and you are content on being an ignorant arse hole so what's the difference in my opinion and yours?

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It could also implode like it did in 2008 when everyone was bitching because GC wouldn't quit throwing the ball (despite always being behind b/c of bad defense).

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Not likely. Luckily JL is the backup today. Anyway we need to play to win instead of not to lose.

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My guess is the coaches know JJ's limitations and realize that they can win games with a powerful running attack and strong defense and special teams while only passing when they have to.

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Your guess is wrong; since both the coaches and the players say the JJ we saw out there last Saturday and at NC is the real JJ that they see everyday in practice making spectacular throws. In any event, even if your guess would be right, it would still be wrong to hold back the offense out of fear until what you fear actually materializes. Anyone who would call plays like you suggests needs to be fired ASAP.

Moreover, with plethora of turnovers and short fields we may be able to win games with just running the ball and because we have a damn good kicker, but without a plethora of turnovers and short fields, we have to have a passing attack to win.

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dreaux, I concur. People keep pointing out the emphasis on ball-control and running as if it is a bad thing.

We can lull them to sleep with the run, and surprise them with the pass.

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I agree. Problem is we are getting the first part down, but fail at the second part.

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We have a qb that holds the ball untill HIS reciever gets open

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I don't blame him one bit for this. We run a retarded option route offense that hasn't worked since 2002.

Lee threw interception after interception in 2008 because he and the receiver read different patterns. Jefferson just holds the ball until the receiver makes the cut.

It's a ridiculous offensive scheme from a terrible offensive coordinator.

i love it when douchebags start dumbass threads and then bail.

*sigh*

DF, you have a QB that just isn't a good decision maker. Period. So, you simplify the decisions to be made, and run the ball.

I don't know how anybody else can put that to you, because that's definitely what's going on.

Only thing that drives me insane....3rd and 5 and...checkdown. Fail. That's not on the OC though, that's on the QB.

People like to put holding onto the ball on him, but he didn't do that in 08. I believe it was drilled into his head to not turn the ball over after the 08 season and don't take a sack after the 09 season. If you lovk somebody up like that, they become too damn cautious. He runs from the pocket too quick sometimes to avoid a sack, and he holds the ball too long sometimes because he has been taught to do that.

Add that to now only reacting to what the opponent does and doing just enough to win and you got what we got. But when we need points to break away we get em.

For example. UNC put up a field goal to put them ahead 7-10. No more than 6 minutes later, we were up 30-10.

Against MSU the scored a TD to close in at 12-7. No more than 4 minutes later we were up 26-7.

I don't know how we turn it on, we just do.