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Dead Fish
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | In the swamps |
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| Number of Posts: | 1586 |
| Registered on: | 3/26/2010 |
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deadfish, i wish the kid well but he is 96th out of 116 NCAA bowl division QB's.
Uhm take your statistics and shove them up your arse, because that's what NFL teams do. They throw them out with the bath water because they are meaningless, since they are beyond a QBs control and contingent on too many variables. That's why they evaluate QBs based on talent and skill alone.
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he has 3 5 star wr's.
Thanks for being redundant!
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he isn't getting the job done. the qb coach isn't getting his job done. obviously neither is gary crowton.
That’s total bullshite; against MSU he did everything that was asked of him and if there wasn’t much asked of him, then that’s not his fault but instead it’s the fault of the person responsible for doing the asking. Yet, you can’t figure out why he is only ranks 96th. Amazing.
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Therefore you contradicted yourself as well, JJ did not call initial play, however every audible is him directing the new play. Whether he has a list of certain audible plays or coaches trust him enough to pick any play it would still be his decision. Therefore he would be calling the new play...
I’m not contradicting myself at all. He is audibling contingent upon the parameters as set forth by the OC for the particular play called as I said earlier. Hell, he can’t arbitrarily change the play willy-nilly to a bomb down the field over and over again whenever he chooses, because that obviously is not in the parameters that were set forth because no OC coordinator is going to give their QBs that much freedom.
For instance, on the second touchdown drive on the second to last play when SR gained about 8 or 9 yards to the 2 yard line and then scored on the next play, JJ audibled out of the original running play called into another running play after reading the defense, and it worked because SR almost scored on that play. His parameters were contingent upon the defense he read.
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even BT doesn't facebook stalk Lee
Well not since the last time he was caught.
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Btw I have always wondered if this refers to your wife or your mom?
Actually it refers to your wife!
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Fish I agree with you that the 38% is scewed for what the intender wanted to partray about JJ.
The average pass thrown by all QB's is about 10 yards give or take 1-2 yards. Now with that given the longer the pass the lower the completion rate/percentage and that is for all QB's. Now to JJ, it is not right to say that any pass that JJ throws he has a 38% rate when we all know that he has not thrown enough downfield to have a comparable percentage rate to compare with. The media is taking what JJ does and applying it across the board and we all should know that does not compute. I wish he could throw 30-50 yard passes at a 38% rate, as would any QB, we would see the ball in the air more often that would mean he would have a 50-60% rate on all passes if not higher.
Last year in one game we saw a simblance of what we all thought what JJ should be but in reality it was a 1 game anomaly for him to have. We did not see it before that game and have not seen it since that game and that was the Auburn game with the one drive last week when after MooMoo St scored after Halftime. For anyone to say he should be able to or has done it before is strictly giving their own estimation into what or how JJ should be at this time. To me the only reason the Coaches are going with JJ is he does not turn the ball over and JL not only turned it over he gave up INT's that went for scores. Why did they go for score's it was where he threw the ball for the opposing team to INT the ball and was able to score with it.
Fish if this is not what you are saying then maybe I do not agree sorry but, this is what I am saying. JMHO! Hope this helps.
Look dude, if I tell you Joe Blow is only hitting 38 percent of his passes on passes thrown in excess of 10 yards alone, it sounds awful. However, if I put it in proper context and tell you that Joe Blow is hitting 38 percent of his passes in excess of 10 yards, which is typical and about average for all college quarterbacks, well then it sounds reasonable and not nearly so awful because it sounds normal.
It was a cheap rhetorical trick presented out of context deliberately by the ESPN broadcast team, and it was so obvious to me that I figured most of you guys would catch it, but obviously as demonstrated by the number of posts in this thread, I was very wrong on the final point. Not only that, but even though I thought I had explained it adequately, some of you guys still can’t get it.
I mean it is the same kind of cheap rhetorical tricks demagogues have been using for generations to sucker dumb asses into voting for them and cutting their own throats at the same time.
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Posted by Dead Fish on 9/25/10 at 11:48 am to Icansee4miles
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Are you Jefferson's dad?
No are you Jarret Lee's mom? :popcorn:
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If this is the foundation of your argument, you should be very careful in throwing around the term 'moron'.
I am but not with respect to you because you are one.
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JJ doesn’t call
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clearly see JJ audibling
All teams give their QBs authority to audible under certain parameters and again those are set by the OCs with the head coach's approval.
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Watch the game tonight. When you start to complain about JJ throwing a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 7, rewind and watch all of the other WRs that JJ never even looked at.
Actually you moron, JJ doesn’t call the plays and if you re-watch last week’s MSU game you can clearly see JJ audibling, checking off, and going through his progressions. Hence, it couldn’t be more obvious that you are an ignoramus!
re: JJ 38% completion rate for pass ATTEMPTS greater than 10 Yards?
Posted by Dead Fish on 9/25/10 at 11:19 am to FootballNostradamus
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I support this. There are message boards where you can ignore certain poster's posts, I'd support it Chicken!
Yeah so you could ignore posters that expose how stupid you are and then you could be as stupid as you want unmolested.
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This board needs a block dead fish's post button.
Why...so you morons can bash JJ unmolested? :lol:
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Personal attacks are a sure sign of someone defending an indefensible position.
Go suck JJ's cock all you want nobody will stop you. Just don't equate your hard-on for him with performance on the field.
You are the one that said it! :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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direct result of dumbing down an offense.
Then why isn't your idol JL the starter you dumb assed JJ basher! Apparently, even though they dumbed down the offense, they still haven't dumbed it down enough for JL to play!
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This statement is Completely FALSE for LSU and everyone in the stadium knows it. MSU almost crapped their pants when he threw it deeper than 7 yards.
JJ consistently throws short of ten yards, unless you count his 10-15 yard drop backs for the 3 yard passes. If this is the case all of his passes are in excess of 20 yards, just 3 yards past scrimmage line.
I would love for him to put some air under a couple of deep balls and let the 6'5" TT go up and get the ball. It wouldn't be a pick six, and we are punting anyway when he throws short of the chains on a 3rd down.
Anyway- 3rd and 2 he throws into the endzone 35-45 yards downfield for an incompletion. When he could have thrown either of the two below for 1st down yardage.
3rd and 7 he throw for 4 yards
3rd and 10 he throws for 6 yards
I am just sick of the disconnect on down and distance relative to the objective of the play called.
JJ is the best option we have? Seriously? LSU can't put someone in there to throw for more than 100 yards per game? How horrible is our coaching? recruiting? development?
RR and TT are STUDS. Put the ball in the air and see what's what.
First, that's way too much for me to read, and second you wrote all that to demonstrate how dumb and stupid you are. Damn....some of you are beyond dense! You are mental retards.
You man the same jock strap!
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Posted by Dead Fish on 9/25/10 at 10:44 am to FootballNostradamus
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If you truly believe this then I'll stop responding to your posts. It might be comparable to Tennessee and Vandy's QBs.
Like I said the Rant is filled with dense and dumb posters.
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you post the same shite every time, so it shouldn't take long.
Yeah well yours do too since they bash JJ in favor of making JL the starter!
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Posted by Dead Fish on 9/25/10 at 10:39 am to therocketscientist
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3 games of play and a simple statistic...there is the context...context is only needed when a snapshot is taken, but this is the complete set of data over a 3 game period.
After reading your constant bashing and attacks against JJ in favor of JL starting, I’m absolutely positive you are too stupid to figure out that since nearly every pass exceeds 10 yards, that most quarterbacks have a comparable incompletion rate on passes that exceed 10 or more yards. It was obviously a cheap rhetorical trick deliberately quoted out of context, but dumb as you are it inevitably fed the beast because you are already totally obsessed with bashing JJ in favor of JL starting, like the coaches and players have some sort of sinister plot against him to mysteriously keep him off the field to ruin his career.
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Those wanting more "context" should explain what additonal "context" mitigates or explains this god awful stat...
Damn...there are some dense and stupid posters on the Rant. Read my damn posts and see if you can figure it out moron!
re: JJ 38% completion rate for pass ATTEMPTS greater than 10 Yards?
Posted by Dead Fish on 9/25/10 at 10:30 am to FootballNostradamus
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How is it out of context? It's a stat, simple as that.
How is it taken out of context? Didn’t I already spell it out for you? Are you really that dense and stupid? Okay you moron, since most passes that are attempted are in excess of 10 yards or more, most incompletions are in excess of 10 yards or more. Hence, if you take JJ’s stats for completion rate on passes in excess of 10 or more yards and compare it with other quarterbacks, it will be very comparable to most other quarterback’s completion rates of 10 or more yards. It was a cheap rhetorical trick, however, you dumb asses are too dense and stupid to figure it out.
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Or it's just that Jefferson is terrible at throwing the ball downfield?
How do we know? GC’s play calling has been ultra conservative to the max?
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I could just as easily argue that there are less defenders in deep zones than there are in intermediate zones.
You can argue all day long, but JJ’s stats were deliberately quoted alone as a cheap rhetorical trick without comparison and context to other quarterbacks to make it seem like it’s out of line. However, it’s not you dumb arse! So argue away if you want!
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You know that Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers had almost perfect passer ratings on passes over 20 yards last year right?
Are you really going to compare a second year college starter to Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers? Can you really be this mentally unhinged? Give me a break, I though I’ve seen it all!
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Are you Jefferson's dad?
Are you JL’s mom, or maybe his frick buddy?
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