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re: the onside kick

Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by tiger45br
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2009
20 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:24 pm to
not with the receiving player. Just admit you're wrong and move on.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5876 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

YTC


What about the post from the scorer in the box

quote:

I was working this game as the scorer, and talked with the replay official. Yes, they missed the illegal block, but that can't be corrected by review. Once the call was made (or not made) on the field, the only things for review were: did LSU touch the ball before it went 10 yards (yes), and who recovered (UNC). But it should have been flagged for the contact by UNC. No one even mentioned the formation, I think that was far too close to call.


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Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30168 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:27 pm to
It is nearly impossible to tell who is the idiot, the dipshit, stupid, douche, dumb, boomed, and nitwit in this thread.

Very frustrating.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86302 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

So you guys are telling me that there was no contact made between players prior to the ball crossing 10 yards in that video, correct?


Whether they are or they are not, it is not a relevant question. The player receiving the ball is beyond ten yards. What occurs in the boundary or whatever it is called is irrelevant under those circumstances.
Posted by whiteyc777
Greenville, SC
Member since Dec 2009
134 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

What about the post from the scorer in the box


Who is "Atlanta Blue" and why should I believe him?

-YTC
Posted by whiteyc777
Greenville, SC
Member since Dec 2009
134 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

It is nearly impossible to tell who is the idiot, the dipshit, stupid, douche, dumb, boomed, and nitwit in this thread.

Very frustrating.


Couldn't agree more.

-YTC
Posted by mmill32
Williamson County, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:30 pm to
i think everyone is overlooking mile's quotes about the incident
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5876 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:31 pm to
quote:


Who is "Atlanta Blue" and why should I believe him?

-YTC


The scorer in the box who talked to the replay official, who was posting on a referee board and could care less about UNC or LSU.. seems pretty unbiased... and also seems pretty straight forward for them on that board..

But was it an illegal formation??.. they are more concerned about that since the other is so obvious
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

I was working this game as the scorer, and talked with the replay official. Yes, they missed the illegal block, but that can't be corrected by review. Once the call was made (or not made) on the field, the only things for review were: did LSU touch the ball before it went 10 yards (yes), and who recovered (UNC). But it should have been flagged for the contact by UNC. No one even mentioned the formation, I think that was far too close to call.


This is what I hate about the instant replay rules. It half-asses what happened and since UNC blocked LSU before the 10 yards, it should have ruled for the ball to go to LSU.
Posted by Newgene
Waveland, MS
Member since Nov 2005
7278 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:34 pm to
New onside kick method:

1.) Kick the ball approximately 5 yards
2.) Nail anyone who is remotely close to the ball as soon as you can.
3.) Hope that it makes contact with the opposing team first, and then you get to keep it.
*Note: this will probably need a replay every time because there's sure to be bodies flying.

Heck, this should bring the onside kick's odds up to nearly 50% probability.

To bad it's ILLEGAL!
Posted by whiteyc777
Greenville, SC
Member since Dec 2009
134 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

The scorer in the box who talked to the replay official, who was posting on a referee board and could care less about UNC or LSU.. seems pretty unbiased... and also seems pretty straight forward for them on that board..

But was it an illegal formation??.. they are more concerned about that since the other is so obvious


To be fair, I could go on that board and pretend to be Rogers Redding. (Is that the right name?)

As for the illegal formation, that was extremely close. That's one of those calls that could have gone either way. I could see how they would have thrown a flag for that.

-YTC
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 4:37 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:38 pm to
quote:


To be fair, I could go on that board and pretend to be Rogers Redding. (Is that the right name?)


Yeah, a guy with that many posts on an obscure forum for refs has all the reason in the world to lie.

There's very little reason to doubt him.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5876 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

To be fair, I could go on that board and pretend to be Rogers Redding. (Is that the right name?)


Doubt that dude made over 1100 posts in 3 years on a site called restripes.com just for the chance to slam UNC or prop up LSU

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Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6861 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

To be fair, I could go on that board and pretend to be Rogers Redding.


That's a great idea. I look forward to following that.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

To be fair, I could go on that board and pretend to be Rogers Redding.


Go read his post history. He has been the official scorer for nearly every event in the GA Dome...referencing games for college and pro teams in multiple sports.
Posted by tiger45br
baton rouge
Member since Aug 2009
20 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:43 pm to
and for what reason are we supposed to think your opinion is more informed than his?
Posted by whiteyc777
Greenville, SC
Member since Dec 2009
134 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:47 pm to
*Sigh...*

How about this? If it was an illegal block (and why would it be called a block?), then it occurs on nearly every onside kick attempt where the both teams are expecting the kick.

-YTC
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6861 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

How about this? If it was an illegal block (and why would it be called a block?), then it occurs on nearly every onside kick attempt where the both teams are expecting the kick.


Could you please give us the definition of a "block"?

TIA
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Could you please give us the definition of a "block"?


quote:

62zip


This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 4:52 pm
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:52 pm to
The Play would then be ruled that the reciever was blocked into the ball. LSU Ball at the spot of the recovery.
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