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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:35 am to OceanMan
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just saw someone blame him for the baseball team being outside the projected tournament bracket.
just write those off as idiots and really they did you a favor. you now know that you can ignore anymore opinions from that poster.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:06 am to Drizzt
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Sorry my optimism pisses you miserable pussies off.
I enjoy optimism. But that’s not what you’re doing. Just bitching about other fans. You know that’s not the same thing, right?
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I'm going to love spotlighting all you hating bitches when we win next year.
You do that. I’ll Just be celebrating.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 10:11 am
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:09 am to Nix to Twillie
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I enjoy optimism. But that’s not what you’re doing. Just bitching about other fans. You know that’s not the same thing, right?
He's too stupid to understand the difference.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:12 am to Drizzt
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I’m still open to giving the man a chance to prove himself.
Same.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:29 am to OceanMan
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I just saw someone blame him for the baseball team being outside the projected tournament bracket.
And you take that seriously enough to reference on a message board regarding negative fans? Why can’t we just stick to the issues that are relevant? That is complete nonsense. O leaves himself open to plenty of criticism but how about we stick to the things that matter and or are directly related to the team
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:48 am to LSUstephen17
decommit coming soon
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:17 am to ExpoTiger
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And you take that seriously enough to reference on a message board regarding negative fans? Why can’t we just stick to the issues that are relevant? That is complete nonsense. O leaves himself open to plenty of criticism but how about we stick to the things that matter and or are directly related to the team
I was simply using it as an example to refute that “everything that is said about O is warranted”.
I don’t find it serious at all, but if you said “hey there pal that might not be fair to blame the football coach for the baseball teams problems”, sure enough there would be another person to come along to tell you that 0 couldn’t even get a D coordinator position after USC and another telling you that you should expand your diet from just eating gumbo yaw yaw binders etc.
Face it, this place is an echo chamber for hating on O. I’m not calling for the end of his criticism, but you basically get attacked for calling bullshite bullshite.
It’s nothing new, people find something to blame and latch on, I’m fully aware of that.
So yes, I think that many in our fanbase are past the point of no return in their irrational hatred for Orgeron and will not praise him if he does well. They will either shut up or find something else to bitch about. These are the types of folks that will always blame the people at the top (AD, coach, QB) and will offer no critical thinking or input, and certainly no praise for those that deserve it because it is simply not what they are looking for.
Lastly I will say again there are plenty of people that rationally despise Orgeron and I wouldn’t label them as Negatigers, they call out bullshite from the other direction. I am fully aware of that. And given the fact that they are rational, I believe they would come around in the event there is a reason to.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 11:32 am to OceanMan
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there are plenty of people that rationally despise Orgeron and I wouldn’t label them as Negatigers, they call out bullshite from the other direction. I am fully aware of that. And given the fact that they are rational, I believe they would come around in the event there is a reason to.
Figuratively, I am standing and applauding and even throwing in a woof woof Arsenio Hall style. Good stuff.
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I think that many in our fanbase are past the point of no return in their irrational hatred for Orgeron and will not praise him if he does well.
Unfortunately, there are a few of these absolute idiots out there. Honestly, I just ignore them all together.
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These are the types of folks that will always blame the people at the top (AD, coach, QB) and will offer no critical thinking or input, and certainly no praise for those that deserve it because it is simply not what they are looking for.
Again, complete morons when the argument is simply "yeah, but O sucks. Yaw yaw" and all of that nonsense. Again, I just try to ignore those posts because it's not even a discussion. It's insulting just to be insulting.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:08 pm to TigerLunatik
It just depends on what side of the fence you are. It’s hard to ignore when they are replies to you. I have just been on here more often the past couple weeks because work has been slow and noticed it has gotten a bit worse. Nevertheless it’s good advice and often do
But I appreciate you taking the time to read my posts on here and hear me out.
But I appreciate you taking the time to read my posts on here and hear me out.
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:49 pm to OceanMan
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I appreciate you taking the time to read my posts on here and hear me out.
Hell yeah, bro. I'm always open to an intelligent discussion, especially with someone with a different view than me. I'm certainly not right all of the time and love learning stuff. I just appreciate that you aren't taking the "he's my coach, so he's going to be successful" angle. I prefer to here reasoning and thought behind an opinion, not just the "hope and pray" method.
I hope your work stays slow because IMO the board needs more open minded posters.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:25 pm to TigerLunatik
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. I just appreciate that you aren't taking the "he's my coach, so he's going to be successful" angle. I prefer to here reasoning and thought behind an opinion, not just the "hope and pray" method.
And I appreciate you and others not taking the “he hasn’t been successful and will thus never be successful, and if you believe he will your an idiot” approach. He is already the coach, and none of us gave him the job.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:29 pm to TigerLunatik
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I've actually been accused of being a supporter of his on more than one occasion.
Just saw this, and this is exactly what I have been trying to say. You get accused of being a supporter just because you aren’t in a fit of rage on a daily basis.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:40 pm to OceanMan
I will never say that he cannot be successful, but I absolutely don't believe he will be. It's not because he wasn't successful before, but because he's been repeating the same mistakes after his pitch was to not make those mistakes when interviewing for the job.
IMO, he hasn't evaluated his coaching hires well and I think he's shown he's not a very detailed oriented CEO type coach. It seems as if he is more suited as a position coach, but I hope he wins every game and make me look like a complete idiot.
IMO, he hasn't evaluated his coaching hires well and I think he's shown he's not a very detailed oriented CEO type coach. It seems as if he is more suited as a position coach, but I hope he wins every game and make me look like a complete idiot.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:44 pm to TigerLunatik
No one thinks this makes or breaks a coaching staff. It is one more positive among many
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:54 pm to mhc4tigers
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No one thinks this makes or breaks a coaching staff.
I couldn't disagree more. The entire purpose of this thread is to somehow suggest that Orgeron is a good coach because a kid gave his verbal commitment to LSU over Bama.
The post insinuates that the perceived "haters" are wrong and the O supporters are correct because of this.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 2:18 pm to LSUstephen17
reality is we better when 10 games this year or recruiting will not go well next year.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 4:32 pm to TigerLunatik
I honestly think he could be a great CEO type coach at a smaller mid major type school. I think he is a good motivator and great recruiter. But you are right that he doesn’t have the attention to detail to match up to Saban.
He gambled to skip that step and it paid off for him. Hopefully it pays off for us. I’m pretty skeptical myself but every year college football has surprises.
He gambled to skip that step and it paid off for him. Hopefully it pays off for us. I’m pretty skeptical myself but every year college football has surprises.
Posted on 5/5/18 at 2:31 pm to TheHat7
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Well we’ve been doing pretty well at Lber recruiting the last few years. Imo last years class was a lot better than the final ranking indicated. Several studs that were robbed n regards to their ranking. And their offer list proves it
This post was edited on 5/5/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/5/18 at 3:21 pm to OceanMan
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I think that many in our fanbase are past the point of no return in their irrational hatred for Orgeron and will not praise him if he does well. They will either shut up or find something else to bitch about.
O is getting the same treatment Miles got for his entire 11 plus years at LSU. Didn't matter what the guy did, be it bad or good. There were always people who got on here and blasted the frick out of Miles. And by god, some of them are still doing it over a year and a half after being dismissed. Saban probably got the same treatment, as well as every other coach who came before him.
I've defended the coaching staffs in the past, but now I either add my 2 cents worth or keep my mouth shut and laugh at the people defending o, because a lot of them are the same ones who kicked Miles in the nuts on a daily basis.
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