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re: The Negatiger: LSU's Confounding Fifth Column

Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:57 am to
NEGATIGERS AND ENGLISH PROFESSORS ASSEMBLE!!!!
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:59 am to
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Cheer LSU losses?

You aren't serious. We don't cheer for losses. Try again.

I'm guessing he meant that a loss gives Negatigers the perfect opportunity to turn their bitching level up and gives them more "reasons" to fire Les.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:59 am to
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and, sadly, this is the first faction of fan that LSU has priced out of Tiger Stadium


so you're saying that if you're an LSU fan that didn't attend LSU you're poor. real nice, Rag.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 11:00 am
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:59 am to
Hell, look at Big Lee's Towing. I doubt that guy even attended highschool, yet he is the biggest LSU fan in Metairie.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:59 am to
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imple journalism .. short, concise, to the point, and communicated with brevity

And people wonder why no one reads newspapers anymore. It's based on a theory of writing so outdated, its based on the technology of the telegraph (the pyramid structure exists in case the cable got cut -- you'd have all of the info you needed up front). Writing a longform magazine style piece requires a different style than news article style. Mainly because news articles are written in a way that is almost unbearable for anyone with a high school education.

But I will note the attack on style and format is not an attack on content. It is just a way to make an ad hominem attack on the author (who, admittedly, is making an ad hominem attack on a large swath of the fanbase, so turnabout is fair play).

I personally believe that anyone who use the terminology of positiger/negatiger/realitiger should be stabbed in the neck with a spork. You want bad writing, it's using those bizarre linguistic amalgamations. Drop the prefix, we're all Tigers.
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 11:00 am
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:00 am to
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I agree that Warner is in over his head when he tries to write a piece in this style. However, what I don't agree with is that there is no value to sports writing as good literature in the right context. Not all sports writing must be done in acordance with the basic rules of structure taught in fundamental English composition classes, the purpose of which is to drag people from illiteracy into basic writing competence. If you can find them, go read some of Herbert Warren Wind's writing in "The New Yorker" on various major golf tournaments, the Masters in particular. It's priceless.



man, you are writing WAY over our heads here .. could you dumb this down a bit ?
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 11:02 am
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:00 am to
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NEGATIGERS AND ENGLISH PROFESSORS ASSEMBLE!!!!

Would that include Negatigers that are also English professors? That would be the worst.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:01 am to
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I personally believe that anyone who use the terminology of positiger/negatiger/realitiger should be stabbed in the neck with a spork. You want bad writing, it's using those bizarre linguistic amalgamations. Drop the prefix, we're all Tigers.


i wish i could fit this into a sig quote ..
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:02 am to
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However, what I don't agree with is that there is no value to sports writing as good literature in the right context. Not all sports writing must be done in acordance with the basic rules of structure taught in fundamental English composition classes,


The problem is the piece is riddled with errors that a HS student would be able to catch.

THAT is the problem.
Posted by Maize&BlueTiger
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:04 am to
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And people wonder why no one reads newspapers anymore.


Putting aside the problem that newspapers have become, even on their "news" pages, apologists for whatever political point of view will boost their readership, people don't read "good" newspapers because they can't be bothered with detail. If it can't be captured in 10 words or fewer, it must not be relevant. Who cares about the knowledge necessary to an informed judgment? It's just so much noise compared with a photo of Lindsay Lohan's most recent arrest. Newspapers have become a dinosaur of a business model, and as they depart, so does the potential for an informed populace. It's all about the sound bite.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:05 am to
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so you're saying that if you're an LSU fan that didn't attend LSU you're poor. real nice, Rag.


of course i am not .. but this is the first faction getting priced out of tiger stadium .. joe blue collar ... i hope you're just joking here trying to put words in my mouth for your benefit ...
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:05 am to
This whole negatiger theme is retarded. Without the negatigers bitching WE'D STILL BE "STUCK IN THE 90's"!

Was it bad to demand greatness when we absolutely sucked? NO

Is it bad to demand greatness when we are good yet obviously inconsistent and in the shadow of our division rivals (and yes I used plural - hello A&M)? NO

If ALL we had was sunshine pumpers and no Paul Revere's, we still have fricking Curley Hallman.

You're welcome.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:06 am to
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The problem is the piece is riddled with errors that a HS student would be able to catch.

THAT is the problem


I don't really mind that he's a poor writer. But, his silly article calls out a large chunk of the fan base, and paints them with a very large brush. Any questioning of Miles = instant negatiger status. Though I think we are doing exactly what Mr. Warner wants; we are keeping this thread going and talking about his article. Well played Mr. Warner.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:07 am to
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i hope you're just joking here trying to put words in my mouth for your benefit ...


kinda...but you could've worded it better.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:07 am to
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Recognizing & being frustrated with under-performance


It's a shame you can't recognize a team fightening to overcome the loss of starters and game changers in one season the like of I have never seen before.

This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 11:09 am
Posted by loyalauron
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:08 am to
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This whole negatiger theme is retarded. Without the negatigers bitching WE'D STILL BE "STUCK IN THE 90's"!

Was it bad to demand greatness when we absolutely sucked? NO

Is it bad to demand greatness when we are good yet obviously inconsistent and in the shadow of our division rivals (and yes I used plural - hello A&M)? NO

If ALL we had was sunshine pumpers and no Paul Revere's, we still have fricking Curley Hallman.

You're welcome.




Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:08 am to
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shadow of our division rivals (and yes I used plural - hello A&M)


Yeah that loss to A&M still stings...oh wait.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:08 am to
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This whole negatiger theme is retarded. Without the negatigers bitching WE'D STILL BE "STUCK IN THE 90's"!


the so-called "negatigers" were the fans that said "frick this shite" and stopped going to home games in the hallman era and forced joe dean's hand to fire him ... then the "negatigers" did the same to gerry dinardo after his brilliant replacements of carl reese and morris watts ... so, in essence, the "negtigers" were the ones that told the administration that they wanted better .. and on came nick saban ..
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:10 am to
maybe i should have emailed that to maize&blue tiger to have him write it for me ..
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:10 am to
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the so-called "negatigers" were the fans that said "frick this shite" and stopped going to home games in the hallman era and forced joe dean's hand to fire him ... then the "negatigers" did the same to gerry dinardo after his brilliant replacements of carl reese and morris watts ... so, in essence, the "negtigers" were the ones that told the administration that they wanted better .. and on came nick saban ..


too much logic;dr
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