re: The Negatiger: LSU's Confounding Fifth Column

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I have been called a "negatiger" in the past and vividly remember the 80's and 90's. it seems simple...if you question Miles, then you're a negatiger. I don't want LSU to fail. I'm actually really stoked for the CFA Bowl...it's bragging rights.

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(from pg1)

Well stated Baker and pretty much my sentiments as well.

I can remember the 70's also. I like Les. But Warner's piece suggests any criticism (or even suggestions that there's someway we can improve) is off limits. I'm of the persuasion that we should always, always look to get better. But that presupposes something "negative." That's not being a negatiger, that's being a positiger beyond the positigers. I want to see us excel beyond where we are now - more wins, more dominance, more noise in TS, more championships.

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the so-called "negatigers" were the fans that said "frick this shite" and stopped going to home games in the hallman era and forced joe dean's hand to fire him ... then the "negatigers" did the same to gerry dinardo after his brilliant replacements of carl reese and morris watts ... so, in essence, the "negtigers" were the ones that told the administration that they wanted better .. and on came nick saban ..

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The truth of this analysis doesn't mean that all critics are doing God's work all the time. Civil rights protesters in the 60's were a motivating force behind changes in the nation's laws regarding race discrimination. But we see the aging boomer generation that mounted those protests (my generation, as it happens) continuing to find issues to pick on not so much because they are truly significant issues in need of reformation, but because it's who they are to be protesters. I think there's a parallel here, with folks remembering how they changed bad into good at LSU thinking they should keep at it with the same vitriol, even when the good has become great.

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This post is the EXACT problem. The "win is a win" crowd spouting off unless of course the "win is a win" is for the other team - see Bama. These same people start claiming moral victories. Well ok, how about moral losses?

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the ugliness of our wins is one of the reasons why a team we beat on the road with the same record jumped us in the bowl pecking order ..

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Now technically, going by one of the Webster definitions, it's not incorrect. IMHO, however, it's used poorly. It's not the word that comes to mind, it has a different association. "Declining" or "decaying" would have been better choices.

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Good point.

Man, I'd trade my left nut for those five gloriously consistent years (THE GLORY YEARS) when Tiny Nick led us to a near-perfect 48-16 record:

2000 8-4. Home loss to UAB. But hey it's year one,so no need to mention the other three blow-out losses to Auburn, UF and Arkansas. What do you expect, the program was in the toilet.

2001 10-3 Won an SEC championship faster than we all believed was possible,but somehow lost at home by two scores to Ole Miss,lost to Tennessee and got waxed by UF.

2002 8-5 Blown out by Virginia Tech, Lost to Alabama schools 62-7, humiliated in last- second meltdown Miracle on Markham (goodbye SEC West championship) beaten by Texas,team in disarray,hastened by Maucks inexplicable leg injury on an option play late in the 4th quarter up 36-13,Damien James quitting team, etc etc.

2003 13-1 Wait, we are good enough to win an BCS crown and we lose to Ron Zook by two scores AT HOME ?

2004 9-3 Year five and we barely beating Oregon State and Troy are losing in shitty fashion to Auburn and getting BLOWN OUT by Georgia and losing in the last seconds (again) to a mediocre Big Ten team?

2005-2012 (THE MISS OUR OLD GIRLFRIEND /MALE YEAST INFECTION YEARS) Everything falls apart: 85-20. One BCS title, 2 SEC Championships, bad clock management, Keiland is underutilized, we don't play the young talent, etc. The SEC is at an alltime-high and LSU can't keep up, Miles runs the program into the dirt, you know the drill....

I hate how the program has dissolved. I can not look at a SINGLE loss since 2005 and understand it with our superiority in facilities and recruiting. Although The Lying Liliputian went 48-16 in his five years, it is a STATISTICAL CERTAINTY that he would have gone at worst 100-5 in his next eight at LSU.

The fact that pitiful, bumblin' Les has somehow stumbled to the SINGLE BEST RECORD OF ANY COACH IN A BCS CONFERENCE FROM 2005-2012 can easily be explained away by any sentient being with a pulse and a Nick Saban Bobblehead collection. He should be executed and fired. In that order.

Since Tiny Screamy has been flat ballin' and reinventing football at Bama, my world is collapsed and my cognitive dissonance is discombobulating and confuseabanating me. Join me in sobbing uncontrollably until The Diminutive Dicktator comes back to us.

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I have been called a "negatiger" in the past and vividly remember the 80's and 90's. it seems simple...if you question Miles, then you're a negatiger. I don't want LSU to fail. I'm actually really stoked for the CFA Bowl...it's bragging rights.

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(from pg1)

Well stated Baker and pretty much my sentiments as well.

I can remember the 70's also. I like Les. But Warner's piece suggests any criticism (or even suggestions that there's someway we can improve) is off limits. I'm of the persuasion that we should always, always look to get better. But that presupposes something "negative." That's not being a negatiger, that's being a positiger beyond the positigers. I want to see us excel beyond where we are now - more wins, more dominance, more noise in TS, more championships.

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the so-called "negatigers" were the fans that said "frick this shite" and stopped going to home games in the hallman era and forced joe dean's hand to fire him ... then the "negatigers" did the same to gerry dinardo after his brilliant replacements of carl reese and morris watts ... so, in essence, the "negtigers" were the ones that told the administration that they wanted better .. and on came nick saban ..

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But, but, but...why did you all powerful, all knowing types allow LSU to hire Hallman, Dean, and all the other less than successful guys who have been at LSU?

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you really fricking think LSU is in the shadow of fricking A&M?? seriously??

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Both have "TEN WINS" but A&M is much more fun to watch to the rest of the country and have ALOT of upside. One fluke play against LSU or FLA and they would be in the title game this year (11-1 or 12-0)

Fluke plays with LSU make us 11-1 or 5-7). The difference: A&M took care of who they were supposed to take care of convincingly.

A&M is going to start pulling LSU recruits as well.

like i said .. "one of the reasons" .. had we beaten the piss out of A&M, Ole Miss, and Arkansas .. i doubt the Heisman thing would have jumped us ..

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The difference: A&M took care of who they were supposed to take care of convincingly. A&M is going to start pulling LSU recruits as well.

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I remember when you said this about Arkansas last year.
And Auburn the year before that.
The barn is always on fire with you guys.
The Inevitable Fall of the Program is always just a game away.
All these LSU wins must be disconcerting.