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re: The myth of the great recruiting classes of the past
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:27 pm to Robbytiger
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:27 pm to Robbytiger
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How was coach O suppose to overcome all that....
We should be able to beat Troy with our 2nd string across the board. Sorry, guy. There's nothing you can say to polish that turd. And I can understand dropping a game to State now and again, but never by 30 points. I'd love to see how you legitimize that game too.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:28 pm to Robbytiger
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Yeah just call me an idiot and never address my points.....true mark of a weak argument
your points are just proven football ignorant opinions. you havent provided a single fact in this entire thread
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:32 pm to Dave England
Yeah I know. They are limited to recruits....
Saban had less than stellar athletes....
Coach O had injuries, suspensions (to key players), attrition and poor o line recruiting he had to deal with.....i say both decks are bare.....very similar
Tell me why you think O was suppose to overcome all that, but Saban gets a pass in HIS FIRST YEAR....
Saban had less than stellar athletes....
Coach O had injuries, suspensions (to key players), attrition and poor o line recruiting he had to deal with.....i say both decks are bare.....very similar
Tell me why you think O was suppose to overcome all that, but Saban gets a pass in HIS FIRST YEAR....
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:32 pm to Robbytiger
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Address the suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruiting by Miles....
How was coach O suppose to overcome all that....
We lost by 30 points to MSU and we lost to TROY.
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I happen to think Bama’s sanctions and O’s suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruitment are on par...
But Saban and O aren't on par. You're talking about a proven head coach who had success as an NFL DC and took 4 years to build LSU from 3-8 into a National Championship team against a career DLine coach who has no experience as a coordinator and whose only coaching experience was 3 years resulting in the program's worst performance.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:33 pm to Robbytiger
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and poor o line recruiting by Miles....
i just posted that 2014 and 2015 had 4 lineman make the nfl and 2016 had the most olinemen make an all sec team and we were ranked as the #1 oline in cfb.
your ignorant opinion doesnt outweigh those facts.
you really are just showing everyone on here how stupid you are.
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How was coach O suppose to overcome all that....
how was O supposed to over come a 41 to 16 4 and 5 star advantage( thats with the bullshite claim of 11 missing starters)against Miss st?
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Saban got a pass for the loss to ULM because of sanctions..
bama was actually in a rebuild situation.they were 2-6 in the sec in 2006
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happen to think Bama’s sanctions and O’s suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruitment are on par...
thats because you have O's nuts down your throat.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:34 pm to Robbytiger
Who wasn’t a good recruit on our team last year?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:34 pm to Robbytiger
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Coach O had injuries, suspensions (to key players), attrition and poor o line recruiting he had to deal with.....i say both decks are bare.....very similar
name the 11 starters out or stop saying it. its complete bullshite
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:35 pm to Robbytiger
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Address the suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruiting by Miles....
Well first off, please list out the actual “suspensions and injuries” instead of just throwing out some vague and anomalous term to inflate how many players were actually out.
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attrition, transfers
Recruit them to not transfer. Sell them on your vision for the program. In short, do your job as head coach.
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poor o line recruiting by Miles....
In your opinion. No one ever talked about Miles’ “ poor oline recruiting” until the unit looked like shite under O in his first month. Previously, LSU struggled against Alabama in the trenches. All of a sudden Troy pushed them around and MSU absolutely assaulted them.
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How was coach O suppose to overcome all that....
Against Troy??
Did Troy recruit better than Miles?
Weren’t you pestering someone to list the LSU linemen in the NFL in another thread?? Please list Troy’s pro players. TIA
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Saban got a pass for the loss to ULM because of sanctions....
Uh, Saban got a pass because he went 12-0 and won the West the next year and were 14-0 national champs the year after that.
I assure you if O does anything similar I will give him a pass for Troy
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I happen to think Bama’s sanctions and O’s suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruitment are on par...
And I happen to disagree
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:36 pm to Robbytiger
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Coach O had injuries, suspensions (to key players), attrition and poor o line recruiting he had to deal with.....i say both decks are bare.....very similar
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:36 pm to Robbytiger
10-2 or better this year buddy.
No more excuses.
No more excuses.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:37 pm to Chimlim
Their situations were on par though. We are not comparing coaches. We are comparing the adversity......
Saban could not beat ULM....in his first year at Bama.....I’m not saying he’s a bad coach....I’m saying, both coaches, when dealt the hand they were given—failed against supposed weaker competition in their first year coaching at said school...
Don’t be dense and try to spin this in any other way...
Give coach O a damn chance
Saban could not beat ULM....in his first year at Bama.....I’m not saying he’s a bad coach....I’m saying, both coaches, when dealt the hand they were given—failed against supposed weaker competition in their first year coaching at said school...
Don’t be dense and try to spin this in any other way...
Give coach O a damn chance
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:38 pm to Robbytiger
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poor o line recruiting by Miles....
Who was in charge of recruiting in 2015 and 2016?
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:41 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Weren’t you pestering someone to list the LSU linemen in the NFL in another thread?? Please list Troy’s pro players. TIA
it was this thread and i listed them and he changed it to how many will be starters
troy doesn't have a single player with a draft grade. they have had 1 player drafted since 2012
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:42 pm to Robbytiger
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Their situations were on par though. We are not comparing coaches. We are comparing the adversit
saban took over a program coming off sanctions that was 2-6 in the sec tye year before.
he didnt have 52 4 and 5 star athletes.
just stop.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:42 pm to KLSU
Can’t count 2015. He was hired in January of 2015......as DL coach....after the 2015 recruiting class....the class of 2015, that’s on Miles bruh
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:43 pm to Robbytiger
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I’m saying, both coaches, when dealt the hand they were given—failed against supposed weaker competition in their first year coaching at said school...
But it's not on par. Your boy Ed was with LSU and recruited for LSU since 2015 and was interim during most of 2016. O is partly responsible for not having adequate depth to beat Troy and MSU that you keep giving him a pass for.
Saban was in his actual first year at Bama that went 2-6 the year prior. He was new to the program. By his second season he went undefeated and made the SECCG.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
But with no one to block for those high ranked skill players
How many times do I have to say this.....it all starts in the trenches......
How many times do I have to say this.....it all starts in the trenches......
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:44 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Wait didn’t you know? Saban is not that good of a coach! I’ve read it here several times! He’s just a good recruiter!
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:45 pm to Robbytiger
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Give coach O a damn chance
he had it
he had...
52 4 and 5 star athletes.
A TEAM SO LITTERED WITH TALENT THAT HE PUBLICLY SAID THAT WE WOULD BE A PLAYOFF TEAM.
returning senior qb
returning all sec rb
the best coordinators money could buy
the easiest schedule he will ever have at lsu
AND HE LOST 4 GAMES
coaches that are proven failures dont get the benefit of the doubt and thats what he is. a proven failure.
for 29 of his 32 year career no ad thought enough of his coaching to offer him a coordinator's job, let alone a hc job
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:45 pm to Robbytiger
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Coach O had injuries, suspensions (to key players), attrition and poor o line recruiting he had to deal with.....i say both decks are bare.....very similar
Except they’re not, beyond the fact it was the first year for each. The 4 years before Saban Bama was 4-9, 6-6, 10-2, 6-7. And Not much better the 4 years before that. Now contrast that with LSU which hasn’t had a losing season since 99 (Bama had 3 since then) and fired Miles not for losing but because we slid from elite status
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 1:03 pm
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