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re: The job O has done this season is nothing short of outstanding
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:35 am to bencoleman
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:35 am to bencoleman
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I love Aranda but he's replaceable just like everyone else.
Right, he's so replaceable that they desperately gave him more money than most HCs in CFB make.
Actually, O and Alleva's actions indicate that they know Aranda's their meal ticket. He leaves and this entire thing comes crumbling down. That's why you give a guy that much money.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 9:37 am
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:49 am to Goldrush25
I want to keep Aranda but lets be honest he hasn't performed any better than Chavis. There are other defensive minds that could do well here. Wisconsin remained good defensively when Aranda left.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 9:59 am to Topwater Trout
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I want to keep Aranda but lets be honest he hasn't performed any better than Chavis. There are other defensive minds that could do well here. Wisconsin remained good defensively when Aranda left.
Why would they give him way more money than any other DC is making if he's so replaceable?
You guys are asserting one thing but O's and Alleva's actions are indicating another.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:01 am
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:02 am to Goldrush25
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Why would they give him way more money than any other DC is making if he's so replaceable
That isn't the point. The point is can he be replaced? Everyone understands Aranda's value to the program but if you don't think he can be replaced you need to rethink some things.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:02 am to Goldrush25
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Why would they give him way more money than any other DC is making if he's so replaceable?
Has he had better defenses than his predecessor? Is the miss. St. guy paid 2.5 mil? clemson dc? michigan dc? Aranda isn't the only one that can coach defense...not sure why tiger fans think he is the key to our success and if he leaves we are doomed.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:03 am to Goldrush25
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Well, I think all that's being said is that we don't know for sure if O can replace his coordinators. He didn't do a good job of it at OM and his coordinator hires at LSU are Canada and Ensminger. Is that encouraging to you?
Ole miss is irrelevant. You look stupid by keep going back to that. The same way that he attracts a different caliber of player, he will attract a different caliber of coach. The same way a 6-21 coach can beat the teams he has this year.
But you’re gonna doubt everything he does as long as he’s here. We know this already
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:06 am to bencoleman
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That isn't the point. The point is can he be replaced? Everyone understands Aranda's value to the program but if you don't think he can be replaced you need to rethink some things.
Alleva and Orgeron don't seem to think he can be replaced. That's all that matters because they're in charge of the program.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:08 am to Lester Earl
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The same way that he attracts a different caliber of player, he will attract a different caliber of coach
Like Ensminger?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:08 am to Goldrush25
Just bc they wanted to keep him doesn’t mean they didn’t think they can replace him. O wants to keep the guys he has good working relationships with. Staff continuity. keeping Dave was a want. Not a need.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:16 am to Topwater Trout
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..not sure why tiger fans think he is the key to our success and if he leaves we are doomed.
Obviously there are other good coordinators the concern is, can/will hire one? His hires thus far have been a mixed bag and have been mostly people he already knew and while all coaches have “their guys” that they usually have with them, eventually they have to hire an “outside” guy. We haven’t really seen O do that successfully yet.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:17 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Show me the post where i said the cam offense was great? I said the 2015 offense was better than any O offense and FACTS back it up. Deal with it boy
Well the season is not over yet so nobody knows for sure.
How many top defenses did we play that year?
How many points did we score in big games when it really mattered?
What did we do if our running game got shut down in 2015?
In 2015 we had a 3rd year OC, a sophmore QB who played a bunch of games as a freshman and one of the best RBs and to ever play college football and a veteran OL yet we couldn't score more than 19 points all of November
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:27 am to H-Town Tiger
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His hires thus far have been a mixed bag
The bad hire being Canada and the good one being Ensminger??
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:32 am to Topwater Trout
They just can't help themselves.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:34 am to Topwater Trout
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The bad hire being Canada and the good one being Ensminger??
I think he was being kind. Canada was an abysmal fit and no power 5 team would hire Ensminger if he were on the open market today.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:36 am to LSU Patrick
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They just can't help themselves
7-1 and 3rd in the country and still bitching
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:36 am to Topwater Trout
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The bad hire being Canada and the good one being Ensminger??
no, Cregg was good hire, Ensminger aight, but not exciting who is getting a pass because a) since the “haters” didn’t like it some defend it because they see it as defending O b) the offense was so stale and predictable and QB play so bad, that any improvement seems like a massive one
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:38 am to Topwater Trout
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7-1 and 3rd in the country and still bitching
Who’s “bitching”?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:39 am to Goldrush25
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Canada was an abysmal fit
seems like fans would give him credit for getting rid of the bad apple so quickly
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:40 am to Goldrush25
Or like Matt Canada?
He either can or he can’t. Make up your mind.
Ensminger has proven to be a perfectly capable play caller & has gotten praise from many outside the program
Posted on 11/1/18 at 10:40 am to Topwater Trout
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7-1 and 3rd in the country and still bitching
Hey, my only point was, we've been here before, as recently as 2015 and no one was calling it outstanding.
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