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re: The hold on Perkins on that touchdown pass in pics

Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6634 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:45 pm to
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Bad part was, he was right next to the QB. I don’t know how they miss that


I was going to post this. I can maybe understand missing a hold 10 yards away from the play but Perkins was 2 feet away from the play.

That play right there was the reason I thought LSU was going to lose. Seems like every close loss has a defining play and I thought that would be it.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19104 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

The Bammer has his left hand holding Perkins’ jersey and the right hand on his facemask. Perkins his hitting the guy’s arm to free it.

As Bryce begins to run you see Perkins’ helmet jerked to the left in the pic away from Bryce.

When Perkins frees himself the guy grabs his jersey and takes him down.



Those first three pics will never be called holding. They are allowed to grab inside the shoulder pads. The last pic with the wrap on the neck could have been called. The key is the arm extension.

I am as homer as anyone that was not as blatant as you say. Go back and look at 2016 on Hurts TD run in a 10-0 game. Bo Scarborough tackled Lewis Neal from behind...
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:48 pm to
It ain’t bribes.

It’s the Jordan effect. Watch the Netflix documentary about Tim Donaghy and how it was an unwritten rule to let star players and big market teams get away with infractions cause it was good for business. It’s a culture. Same in every league.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18503 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Ali Gaye has to make that tackle.
That part
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78943 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:01 pm to
The most blatant no call of the night and bad because it prevented a sack that would have cancelled out a score.
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6353 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:02 pm to
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Exactly. Holding and face mask and hands to the face mask.

There was another call where two refs are discussing a penalty in LSU and I’m telling my friend… look they’re discussing whether to make the call the 10 yard penalty or call it a 15 yard penalty.

I don’t recall what the pantries were but sure enough the guy says… there were two penalties on the play. One was a 10 yard penalty and the other the 15 yard.

They assessed the 15 yard.

Ok I know that sounds conspiracy crazy but those two refs spent an inordinately long amount of time discussing. What was the hold up?


This may be a dumb question, but why would a team accept a ten yard penalty when they also have the option of accepting a fifteen yard penalty?
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14070 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:09 pm to
Saban has said before about having his offensive lines wear white gloves.

Hard to see sharing a white jersey.

Lsu loves the white and they wear it every time against Bama.....

Posted by DJFord
Arabi
Member since Oct 2022
458 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:10 pm to
Blow up the pics. The guy has his hand under Perkins facemask. That’s not his Jersey. Live you can see his head jerk as Bryce goes by. In these pics you can see the guys hand and Perkins looking away from Bryce when he was right next to him. He was looking away bc the guy was holding on the the facemask
Posted by DJFord
Arabi
Member since Oct 2022
458 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:12 pm to
I’m not saying it was an option. I’m saying the added the call to make it a 15. Again I have nothing to go on except the two refs talked for a long time and I jokingly said it. But damn if they didn’t have TWO penalties.

You’re right if it’s two there is no discussion. Take the 15. But here they talked a minute or so.

Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3709 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:13 pm to
I'm still pissed about this.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15849 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Another part of that play was the clean opportunity 11 had to smoke Young and just flat out whiffed

He seemed to do that a few times last night.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:14 pm to
You say this but I remember very specifically they called a hold on us on a run around the right side for a block that was completely between the numbers with no visible jersey pull
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:14 pm to
Where are SEC headquarters located?
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
40949 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:15 pm to
Like someone else said.. that’s not something you miss. That’s something you ignore.
Posted by DJFord
Arabi
Member since Oct 2022
458 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

You say this but I remember very specifically they called a hold on us on a run around the right side for a block that was completely between the numbers with no visible jersey pull


That was the play where the bammer flopped. Basketball style.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28559 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:27 pm to
fricking scumbag SEC Referees.
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
11714 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:30 pm to
Was pretty blatant
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4006 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:39 pm to
Perk would have sacked him easily
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26661 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Those first three pics will never be called holding.


WRONG.

They are allowed to hold inside the shoulders of the defender. #54 clearly has his right arm on the outside of Perkins' arm and his hand on top of the pads.

His left hand is grabbing the back of Perkins' pads/jersey. That is HOLD.

As the play progressed, #54's right arm slid over to Perkins' facemask as Perkins was trying to free himself.

After the facemask Perkins was being pulled down by his right arm.

That cost us at least 4 points and maybe 7, since a penalty would have moved them to about midfield. They would have needed 20+ yards on 3rd down to get within field goal range.
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
3272 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Ok I know that sounds conspiracy crazy but those two refs spent an inordinately long amount of time discussing. What was the hold up?


Yea what was the fricking hold up on that?
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