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re: The future of this program under Will Wade

Posted on 3/4/20 at 8:21 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/4/20 at 8:21 am to
Depending on who returns, next season will probably be the deepest and POSSIBLY the most talented team he's had at LSU. He could return 4 starters/quasi-starters in Smart, Days, Manning and Watford in addition to the big recruiting class. That would be a good mix of talent and experience more like what they had last year.

His recruiting is on fire.
He's proven he can put a national championship caliber offense on the floor.

The ONE question will be is he willing to adjust his defensive approach? If so, LSU could be a true national championship contender and arguably favored to win the SEC. If not, they will still be good (maybe even very good), but just below the true championship tier.

Just like the football program was, they are so very close to breaking through. Can they make the final adjustment necessary to do so?
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17412 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 8:21 am to
I really think Will Wade can take us places we’ve never been to as a basketball program. LSU basketball is about to finally join LSU football and baseball, as a big time program
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5395 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Depending on who returns, next season will probably be the deepest and POSSIBLY the most talented team he's had at LSU. He could return 4 starters/quasi-starters in Smart, Days, Manning and Watford in addition to the big recruiting class. That would be a good mix of talent and experience more like what they had last year.


This all day! You have all these players who are starters this year who have valuable experience and you mix that in with a top 10 recruiting class, this team is going to be really damn good next season
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
10529 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 10:28 am to
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Oh shut the frick up clown. Wade has had 3 great seasons in 3 years. So he's batting 1000. He got this team 8 SEC wins a season after they went 2-16 aka the worst team in program history with the fricking loser Johnny Jones. We went to the NIT and won a game as well. This team was predicted to finish last in the SEC and finished 9th. Then in year 2 wins the god damn SEC at 16-2 over Elite 8 Kentucky, Final 4 Auburn, and Sweet 16 Tennessee. (We were 3-0 against all 3 yet get penalized by having to be in Duke and Michigan State's bracket) In year 3 has back to back 20 win seasons and possibly a 2nd to 4th place SEC finish after losing on massive talent to the NBA, the frickboy AD and LSU President suspending him for dumbass hearsay killing a recruiting class that would have been better, a massively deficient roster with no one over 6'8, lack of depth, and Marlon Taylor and Manning basically never being healthy together to give us quality depth pretty much all season. Back to back NCAA Tournaments for the first time in 14 fricking years. Give me a break. We have a coach here who can take us the new heights as in National Championship heights. LSU hasn't done that shite since 1935. 85 years. Go frick yourself. It would be the dumbass section of our "fan" base that would want to run a massive coaching talent out of town


My pecker got hard from reading this. 100% FACTS

Next season if Watford or Smart return we will be a top 15 team. If both return we will be preseason top 10
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34140 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 10:44 am to
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We still do not have a BIG man on our roster or in Our recruiting class. So no SEC championship contender next year either..


This isn't 1985. Very few teams have a true post-up "big man" these days. The game is more spread out.

Just in the SEC last season Kentucky damn near made the Final Four and their tallest contributor was 6'8 (Richards and Montgomery were virtual non-factors for that team). The only reason they didn't make the Final Four is because Auburn beat them...another team who didn't rely on a "big man" in the traditional sense, but multiple 6'6 - 6'8" versatile forwards who could score inside and out (Wiley only avg. 13 minutes per game). Hell, this year's Baylor team plays FOUR guards and a 6'9 forward!

In Wade's first year he had a frontcourt with TWO 6'10+ players who couldn't defend the rim worth a shite. Length and athleticism is more important than pure height.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1768 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:04 am to
Because of the problems last year, WW wasn't really able to get recruits to come here. It's amazing that he's done what he has with the team this year. We have some really good players, but with no big men or point guard, it has been tough.

In reality, we had to have this great recruiting class this year. Manning is the only player from our regular rotation that will probably be back next year. Williams, Days and Smart should probably come back, but I doubt it. William and Days, because they have limits and those don't go away, Smart because the new players are probably better than him.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34140 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:23 am to
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It's amazing that he's done what he has with the team this year. We have some really good players, but with no big men or point guard, it has been tough.


Is it really that "amazing"? Or are LSU fans' expectations so low that it just seems that way? Obviously how quickly he's elevated this program is remarkable. But for THIS team (to date) they are on pace to essentially meet preseason predictions.

THIS LSU team was picked to finish 3rd in the SEC. Yet, we have some fans acting like this group was so bad they were picked to finish at the bottom the league. They were also projected to be a tournament team with most predicting them to be a 6 seed.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216135 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:29 am to
The next two years will tell the tale.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
20009 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:31 am to
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One good year does not a super coach make


What peculiar prose is this?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216135 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:34 am to
How was LSU penalized by being in the bracket with MSU/Duke????? Sounds like being a whinney baby to me.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:48 am to
The usual suspects who absolutely refuse to give Coach Wade any credit are almost all accounted for already lmao

I’m convinced they’re just trolls bc no LSU fan could be that stupid and opposed to success
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
21632 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 11:58 am to
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I dont think you see any of that until the NCAA for sure gets out of town and we dont hear back for a while


You can work this into the contract. I.E., if something comes up, he can be terminated for cause without a buyout or with a reduced buyout. This shouldn't prevent the parties from negotiating now. Lock him up and looks good to recruits that he will be here a while.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10344 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:06 pm to
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I really think Will Wade can take us places we’ve never been to as a basketball program. LSU basketball is about to finally join LSU football and baseball, as a big time program


time will tell.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10344 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

What peculiar prose is this?


a fact!
He has had one really very good year and this year could be good...still games to be played.

But many, already want to give him the keys...
likely the same who would have paid Jimbo any amount of $$$.

Pay the man AFTER he earns it.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26287 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Dale went to a tournament 14 years straight



And not much to show for it. Dale Brown is not the standard

The reality is that like only 36 teams have ever won the tournament and I believe only 24 different teams have won one in the last 50 years. So not many teams have won one. Brown is the standard at LSU, but I see no reason that Wade can't compete for and possibly eventually win an NC at LSU.

For now, I'm happy just having a team competing for SEC titles again and tourney appearances like Dale back in the day. There were many great memories with those teams he coached and there can be great times/memories again.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26287 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Dale went to a tournament 14 years straight.



How long did it take Dale to win his first SEC Championship?
Wade is ahead of Dale's pace.

Wade has done a damn good job. I could see him possibly getting LSU to the top of the mountain as he recruits well, pays great attention to detail and is young and still learning.

However, when Brown took LSU to his first tourney and captured his first SEC title, LSU hadn't done either of those things in a quarter of a century. He took over an awful program. He was also named SEC Coach of the Year in his first year because they were picked to finish dead last and they had a winning record. He struggled for a few years developing the program after that, but once he got it rolling, he had impressive accomplishments for what was a nothing-program before he arrived.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34140 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:40 pm to
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You can work this into the contract. I.E., if something comes up, he can be terminated for cause without a buyout or with a reduced buyout. This shouldn't prevent the parties from negotiating now. Lock him up and looks good to recruits that he will be here a while.


They already put such language in his contract after last season.

On the one hand Wade is still "hot" with respect to the potential NCAA violations aspect. I'd imagine his market right now is not as large as it would be otherwise. But on the other, LSU could show some real commitment by locking him up long term even under a cloud of speculation. In fact, now might be the best time to do so and LSU could probably lock him on the "cheap" while other schools are hesitant to get in a bidding war.

If the NCAA stuff goes away without any further mention AND he continues to perform well it's going to be much more expensive for LSU to lock him in long term. You'd be taking a little bit of a leap of faith, but it might be well worth it in the long run
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10164 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:49 pm to
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THIS LSU team was picked to finish 3rd in the SEC



Not making excuses ALT but if you would have told both Marlon and Manning would be hurt half the year I would have told you 5th 6th place in the SEC.

If manning never goes down Idk if this team wouldn't be contending with UK right now for the sec. But there is shite that evey team deals with.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71550 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 12:54 pm to
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You can work this into the contract. I.E., if something comes up, he can be terminated for cause without a buyout or with a reduced buyout. This shouldn't prevent the parties from negotiating now. Lock him up and looks good to recruits that he will be here a while.


They already worked it into his contract last year and his current deal still runs through June 2023. So still 3 more seasons left on it currently.

Assuming nothing comes up, they will probably get him extended some time after next season, again, right now is not the time. Nobody is coming after him nor will they be this offseason. The NCAA/NOAs will continue to get handed out and dealt with in that time period being the main reason. Again, this all works to our favor.
This post was edited on 3/4/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
10392 posts
Posted on 3/4/20 at 1:01 pm to
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