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The fact that Alleva was awaiting instructions from the President or BOS

Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:02 am
Tells everything you need to know about his level of competence in his position.

A true DIRECTOR is out in front of these things and then awaits the consequences of his superiors if they somehow have a problem with his actions.

An useless yes man doesn't pull the plug on anything until he gets the green light go ahead.

Sad situation. So sad.
Posted by SwampTrash
Member since May 2017
450 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:03 am to
Or maybe he doesn't want to piss off his boss and get fired.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:04 am to
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Or maybe he doesn't want to piss off his boss and get fired.


Yeah, we're saying the same thing.

His job is to make the decision.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19351 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:05 am to
At this point he should just go out guns blazing. Come out and say he's been handcuffed his entire time here. Some small school will hire him.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:05 am to
quote:

A true DIRECTOR is out in front of these things and then awaits the consequences of his superiors if they somehow have a problem with his actions.



Lol

My god.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7598 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:06 am to
quote:

His job is to make the decision.


Absolutely!

BOS and King need to let him do his job if they are interfering.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:07 am to
What? I don't care if you agree with the ultimate actions or not (to be honest, I haven't even drawn a full conclusion but I think I likely have problems with much of it), the fact remains Joe clearly didn't do squat until he was told he would be okay to do what he did.

That's not what a true Director should do.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:09 am to
quote:


A true DIRECTOR is out in front of these things and then awaits the consequences of his superiors if they somehow have a problem with his actions.


This.

I get Joe can’t go rogue but God we come off as such a clown show when our AD consistently gets his legs cut out from under him. People that think Woodard would ever come here are dreaming, no one wants to be micromanaged by political flunkies that are barely qualified to sit on the board much less make decisions for the athletic department. You hire an AD and let him lead. You take action when his leadership and decisions fail.

They should be general overseers, not dictating policy or even hires.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:11 am to
People there is a HIERARCHY, even if you do not like it.

tell the VP in your company to tell the President of it what to do.
Posted by bayoubengals01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
246 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:11 am to
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Joe clearly didn't do squat until he was told he would be okay to do what he did.


How do you know this?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70346 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:12 am to
quote:

People that think Woodard would ever come here are dreaming, no one wants to be micromanaged by political flunkies that are barely qualified to sit on the board much less make decisions for the athletic department.


He's seen up close and personal how it works when he was in the AD. It's the same reason we wouldn't be able to get Radakovich either. They know too much about the dysfunction.

They probably sit in their offices every day and thank God for how much easier it is to get things done where they are.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6373 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:13 am to
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The fact that Alleva was awaiting instructions from the President or BOS


So you're saying that Alleva wanted to suspend Wade immediately but waited to be told to do so by the BOS or president?

Or that he didn't want to suspend Wade but the BOS or president made him. Because if it's the latter then he didn't wait for instructions.

I'm confused by what you're trying to get at here.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:14 am to
quote:

tell the VP in your company to tell the President of it what to do.


Tell the VP in your company to not make any decisions over his division until he gets the full blessing of the President and see how well it operates in the long run.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6735 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:15 am to
People give Alleva a lot of shite and rightfully so but at the end of the day he has people over his head that he reports to. He can’t just do whatever he wants same as you can’t walk into your job today and do whatever the hell you want.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13584 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:16 am to
quote:


What? I don't care if you agree with the ultimate actions or not (to be honest, I haven't even drawn a full conclusion but I think I likely have problems with much of it), the fact remains Joe clearly didn't do squat until he was told he would be okay to do what he did.

That's not what a true Director should d


You are assuming this is a normal, functioning, competent situation. Alleva is a yes man, obviously. I see what youre getting at, but it's not relevant because he's just a puppet. That's the reason he has the job in the first plac.e
Posted by bayoubengals01
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
246 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:16 am to
quote:

So you're saying that Alleva wanted to suspend Wade immediately but waited to be told to do so by the BOS or president? Or that he didn't want to suspend Wade but the BOS or president made him. Because if it's the latter then he didn't wait for instructions.


My thoughts exactly.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101453 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:16 am to
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So you're saying that Alleva wanted to suspend Wade immediately but waited to be told to do so by the BOS or president?

Or that he didn't want to suspend Wade but the BOS or president made him. Because if it's the latter then he didn't wait for instructions.

I'm confused by what you're trying to get at here.


I'm saying, by all accounts and reading into everything I've seen on the matter, Joe sat on his hands and did absolutely nothing until he received the full blessing of the BOS and President.

If someone believes this is incorrect, point me to something or someone reporting a narrative that would tell me it is.
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2623 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:16 am to
Or maybe he was overruled by the Pres and BOS. I heard that he was going to let everything slide and wait out the investigation until the board pulled the rug out from under him
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Joe clearly didn't do squat until he was told he would be okay to do what he did.



Or maybe Joe didn't have any intentions on suspending Wade until his bosses told him he had to. That is the silly thing about jobs, you typically have to do what your bosses tell you to do.

I don't care who you have in as AD they would do the exact same thing in that situation. If the President and/or BOS tell you that you have to suspend the coach, then you suspend the coach.

Do you have any clue how many idiotic orders I have received in the military from my superiors? Guess what I typically will voice my opinion and then ultimately do what I was ordered. It is how the world works. There is a peeking order with everything in life.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I'm saying, by all accounts and reading into everything I've seen on the matter, Joe sat on his hands and did absolutely nothing until he received the full blessing of the BOS and President.

If someone believes this is incorrect, point me to something or someone reporting a narrative that would tell me it is.


Please show me where you see this? Show me anyone that reported he sat there clueless waiting for someone to tell him what to do. That is something you completely fabricated in your head.
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