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The ESPN Motive of an LSU-Alabama BCSNCG Rematch
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:51 pm
Facts: ESPN has a monopoly on television when it comes to the BCS analysis. ESPN broadcasts the BCS Selection Show, has the only BCS analysts (the primary one, of course, graduated from Alabama), broadcasts the BCS games including the championship, employs the central voice of college football (Herbstriet) and has no competitor on TV. This monopoly of influence comes into play with poll voters, who of course will be instrumental in determining the title game matchup.
Given this, it is incredibly interesting that ESPN, which clearly has a heavily vested interest in who plays in the BCS championship game, is so strongly hyping The Rematch Of The Game Of The Century as the obvious, no other alternative choice. Obviously the ratings for the LSU-Alabama game earlier this year were enormous, and ESPN likely would stand to benefit greatly from a ratings standpoint were the two teams to rematch. I also think it's safe to say that the ratings for that would exceed those for an LSU-Oklahoma State game. Because of this, ESPN obviously has a conflict in being able to report from an unbiased standpoint.
A rematch, if all things hold, is illogical for many reasons. The logical result if all things hold is for LSU to play Oklahoma State for the national title. It would set a bad precedent for a team that lost to the presumptive national title opponent at home, that did not win its conference let alone its own division (which also was won by the presumptive national title opponent), that beat three FBS teams with winning records all season (Penn State, Arkansas, Auburn), to be rewarded with the opportunity for a rematch against a team it lost to at home, over a conference championship team with a better resume such as an Oklahoma State – which would have beaten three teams that are in the top 18 of the BCS (Oklahoma, Baylor, and Kansas State), as well as five other FBS teams with winning records, that has not played LSU let alone lost to them on their home field. Also, as has been established, given the computer rankings there would only need to be a quarter of all pollsters to lean Oklahoma State for the Cowboys to pass Alabama.
If an honest journalist or analyst was looking at the big picture from an unbiased standpoint, they would offer the previous information. Instead, ESPN to this point has offered no such alternative and is continually pointing to The Rematch. Again, because it would stand to earn more money from advertising and viewership for a rematch based on previous television ratings than it would in a game between LSU and Oklahoma State.
I don’t care either way if LSU plays Alabama, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech, or whoever – at this point I just want us to beat Arkansas. But I find it incredibly dishonest for a network with so much riding on what teams play in the games it broadcasts to attempt to influence the matchup and dissuade logic and reason so that it can have more profit.
What do you guys think?
Given this, it is incredibly interesting that ESPN, which clearly has a heavily vested interest in who plays in the BCS championship game, is so strongly hyping The Rematch Of The Game Of The Century as the obvious, no other alternative choice. Obviously the ratings for the LSU-Alabama game earlier this year were enormous, and ESPN likely would stand to benefit greatly from a ratings standpoint were the two teams to rematch. I also think it's safe to say that the ratings for that would exceed those for an LSU-Oklahoma State game. Because of this, ESPN obviously has a conflict in being able to report from an unbiased standpoint.
A rematch, if all things hold, is illogical for many reasons. The logical result if all things hold is for LSU to play Oklahoma State for the national title. It would set a bad precedent for a team that lost to the presumptive national title opponent at home, that did not win its conference let alone its own division (which also was won by the presumptive national title opponent), that beat three FBS teams with winning records all season (Penn State, Arkansas, Auburn), to be rewarded with the opportunity for a rematch against a team it lost to at home, over a conference championship team with a better resume such as an Oklahoma State – which would have beaten three teams that are in the top 18 of the BCS (Oklahoma, Baylor, and Kansas State), as well as five other FBS teams with winning records, that has not played LSU let alone lost to them on their home field. Also, as has been established, given the computer rankings there would only need to be a quarter of all pollsters to lean Oklahoma State for the Cowboys to pass Alabama.
If an honest journalist or analyst was looking at the big picture from an unbiased standpoint, they would offer the previous information. Instead, ESPN to this point has offered no such alternative and is continually pointing to The Rematch. Again, because it would stand to earn more money from advertising and viewership for a rematch based on previous television ratings than it would in a game between LSU and Oklahoma State.
I don’t care either way if LSU plays Alabama, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech, or whoever – at this point I just want us to beat Arkansas. But I find it incredibly dishonest for a network with so much riding on what teams play in the games it broadcasts to attempt to influence the matchup and dissuade logic and reason so that it can have more profit.
What do you guys think?
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:55 pm to Captain Want
I think you make great points, but ESPN can only do so much. The voters control everything. At this point, OSU is 2 in the computers. If the voters want to see the Rematch, they keep Bama 2. Our BCS Guru, whose only motive is to look at things objectively, says if OSU beat OU in Bedlam, then OSU needs 25% or so of the voters to vote OSU 2 and Bama 3 for the Rematch to be squashed. Personally, I think the Rematch will not happen if OSU wins Bedlam. We had a similar situation in 06 and the media was clamoring for a rematch between Mich and Ohio St and Mich was jumped by Florida in the final poll.
I cannot stand the way the media drools over Bama as well. They do not deserve a shot at the title. They already got a dose of LSU's SWAG. I'd like to spread the SWAG around.
I cannot stand the way the media drools over Bama as well. They do not deserve a shot at the title. They already got a dose of LSU's SWAG. I'd like to spread the SWAG around.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:59 pm to Captain Want
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The ESPN Motive of an LSU-Alabama BCSNCG Rematch
Two fold:
1. ESPN is all about self promotion and ratings. LSU-Bama rematch is the best game for ratings, by a long shot.
2. ESPN college football team has a couple Bama connections in Brad Edwards and Reece Davis, I believe. Fandom runs deep, so of course they would use the national outlet they have to promote their school.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:59 pm to jdg91878
Yeah but after hearing Herbie on Cowherd just a few minutes ago it is clear that they are pushing the Bama vs LSU rematch.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:01 pm to ScoopAndScore
I don\'t think the ratings for the rematch will be the same. Most casual viewers thought the 9-6 was boring.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:02 pm to Tiger Phanatick
ivan maisel is from a wealthy mobile, al family that are all bama alums.
Brad Edwards is a bama grad.
Rece Davis is a bama grad.
I don't know if those guys have enough power of persuasion to sell their co-workers on a rematch, but you never know...
Plus people have a hard-on for 'traditional powers' (teams that were good before integration)....
Brad Edwards is a bama grad.
Rece Davis is a bama grad.
I don't know if those guys have enough power of persuasion to sell their co-workers on a rematch, but you never know...
Plus people have a hard-on for 'traditional powers' (teams that were good before integration)....
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:03 pm to Captain Want
Herbie is paid by Bama to sing their praises to the world.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:04 pm to Golfer
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I don\'t think the ratings for the rematch will be the same. Most casual viewers thought the 9-6 was boring.
The hype machine can change a lot of that.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:05 pm to Golfer
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I don\'t think the ratings for the rematch will be the same. Most casual viewers thought the 9-6 was boring.
I agree. No one outside of the South wants to see this rematch. this is why OSU is in with a win. All other voters don't want to see it IMO. How can you even justify putting a team in that can't win their own division over a conference champion. It is a crock of horse shite. The college system is suppose to match up good teams from each conference against each other; not rematches of close conference games.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:06 pm to Captain Want
You realize it's not just ESPN? Literally every "expert" or outlet in the country is saying its Alabama-LSU.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:07 pm to jdg91878
voters don't want a rematch
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:07 pm to nativetiger
I think part of the reason is this:
If OU beats OSU, Bama is all but a lock for the NC game.
If they keep stoking the fire against a rematch, nobody will be happy when Bama gets into the game. And nobody will tune in to their hype coverage. blah blah blah.
This is if you're a cynic and believe ESPN's producers get their "experts" and "analysts" to pick certain sides to argue, which I do.
If OU beats OSU, Bama is all but a lock for the NC game.
If they keep stoking the fire against a rematch, nobody will be happy when Bama gets into the game. And nobody will tune in to their hype coverage. blah blah blah.
This is if you're a cynic and believe ESPN's producers get their "experts" and "analysts" to pick certain sides to argue, which I do.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:07 pm to ScoopAndScore
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The hype machine can change a lot of that.
TD BCS guru once said that media persuasion in votes is overrated. I believe him. The voters are smarter than you give them credit for. If OSU win Bedlam, I think they get in.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:08 pm to Captain Want
You're right. Media sucks and always an agenda other than objective analysis. This instance with ESPN is no different.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:19 pm to bigpapamac
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Literally every "expert" or outlet in the country is saying its Alabama-LSU.
This makes then all idiots. Okie St is still 2 in the computers after a loss. They will end the year at 2 with a win against OU. All OSU needs is 25% of voters to put them 2 instead of Bama and Bama is out. The fact that none of these people see this is absurd, unless they assume Okie St loses to OU.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:27 pm to jdg91878
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Literally every "expert" or outlet in the country is saying its Alabama-LSU.
They all watch the same source - ESPN.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:28 pm to jdg91878
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TD BCS guru once said that media persuasion in votes is overrated. I believe him. The voters are smarter than you give them credit for. If OSU win Bedlam, I think they get in.
I'm not talking about voters. I'm talking about TV viewers. The post I responded to seemed to indicate no one wants to watch the rematch of a 9-6 game. I'm just saying once the hype machine fully kicks in, everyone and their momma will be tuning in to this rematch.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:28 pm to Captain Want
i don't know who else that we would play but this is complete bull shite. i hope we shut everyone up
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:32 pm to Captain Want
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But I find it incredibly dishonest for a network with so much riding on what teams play in the games it broadcasts to attempt to influence the matchup and dissuade logic and reason so that it can have more profit.
It could also be as simple as ESPN and most other media outlets think that BAMA is obviously the 2nd best team period! As much as I personally don't want to see it its really hard to argue that any of the other teams (Ok St / Stanford / VTech etc.) would beat bama head to head.
I have also been thinking a lot about how I would feel had we been on the losing end of the Nov 5th match up (even if it had been at LSU instead of on the road) and I along with most on this board would be sceaming that we DESERVED a rematch and were obviously the best team to face Bama in the MNCG. I say we beat Arky and Georgia and take it to whoever gets the daunting task of being matched against this Damn strong football team in the MNCG!!!!
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:34 pm to Captain Want
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They all watch the same source - ESPN.
So people who have made careers out of football and reporting and get paid to give their opinion for CBS or SI or Fox or whatever get all their own opinions and views from ESPN? Yea, that seems accurate.
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