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re: The complete turnaround Kelly has made for LSU
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:55 am to Nite game
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:55 am to Nite game
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With all the SEC playing mediocre and Saban gone, I think this was the year for BK to shine! He shite the bed.
I don't think the SEC "played mediocre", this is just the result of the portal era.
Teams will be up and down from year to year.
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Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:02 pm to fightvance
That's a lot of receipts 
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:09 pm to Amused Lurker
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If you idiots think the program is the same and on the same trajectory as theee years ago, there is no helping you. We were on the precipice of the 90s or worse.
And they are too stupid to realize the entire landscape of college football has changed. I guarantee 90% of the people riding BK’s jock about winning etc are people that wanted Napier, or Kiffin or someone else fighting the exact same problems and prob doing a worse job of it. None of them will tell you a realistic coach’s name that LSU could pull tomorrow that would do any better and prop would be much worse.
Why are low IQ fans the loudest online?
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:40 pm to fightvance
Where’s Salviati at? Interesting how he’s nowhere to be found on this thread.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 12:51 pm to GeauxBall
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And they are too stupid to realize the entire landscape of college football has changed. I guarantee 90% of the people riding BK’s jock about winning etc are people that wanted Napier, or Kiffin or someone else fighting the exact same problems and prob doing a worse job of it. None of them will tell you a realistic coach’s make that LSU could pull tomorrow that would do any better and prop would be much worse.
Why are low IQ fans the loudest online?
Yep
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:23 pm to LSBoosie
Yes because that was claim to fame year one when he beat Alabama. That was his 17th consecutive win in November. He won a couple more then lost to Aggie his first year here iirc. November is no longer his specialty.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 1:54 pm to grape nutz
Who did you want to hire when they hired Kelly?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:18 pm to Cuz413
quote:Arizona State benefitted from the Wyatt Earp Effect. (Which is appropriate as Tombstone is in Arizona.)
Arizona St signed 28 players from the portal avg NIL $54k in 2023
In 2024 they signed 29 players avg NIL $27k
Yet they're in the playoffs
There are many more teams who made significant portal purchases who did not fare as well as the Sun Devils.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 2:45 pm to GeauxBall
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And they are too stupid to realize the entire landscape of college football has changed. I guarantee 90% of the people riding BK’s jock about winning etc are people that wanted Napier, or Kiffin or someone else fighting the exact same problems and prob doing a worse job of it.
This. They hate BK the way liberals hate Trump. It’s derangement and I don’t understand why.
They don’t accept that BK took over a dumpster fire.
They don’t accept that BK has been a successful HC for a long time.
They don’t accept that portal/NIL have completely changed everything and LSU will no longer enjoy the recruiting advantage for in-state talent.
They also generally aren’t donating money to NIL for better players. And they can’t name any coaches that we should’ve hired instead three years ago. They take it personal that BK gets paid a lot.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:03 pm to fightvance
Running in place, baws...
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
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To be fair, its not our job to fire a coach either but people here constantly want to.
Is this not what fans do?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:11 pm to SidewalkTiger
How is that a relevant point, Sidewalk? Do fans research the candidates? Fans i.e. fanatics have opinions which are sometimes spot on. It is not the job of Tiger Nation to find the best coach, but it is their solemn duty to issue critiques of anything they perceive going wrong. Woodward hired him and to date he has LSU exactly where it was three years ago. Can you argue that this is a program headed in the right direction? I would love to hear it.
Otherwise, what is the good of being a fan?
Otherwise, what is the good of being a fan?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:15 pm to Tigerfanindawgland
Pray, what, exactly has LSU to show for that stat? Statistics are for losers.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:19 pm to biglego
Kelly himself said to judge him in year 3. Why are people mad when he’s judged in year 3?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:21 pm to fightvance
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Kelly himself said to judge him in year 3. Why are people mad when he’s judged in year 3?
Because people are using that as an excuse to ignore the first 2 years which were pretty good and bitch nonstop.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 3:58 pm to SammyTiger
Pretty good..is this what $10mil/yr gets
Posted on 12/9/24 at 9:21 pm to JustDooIt
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Pretty good..is this what $10mil/yr gets
I wouldn't call unranked 8-4 aTm "pretty good"
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:22 pm to biglego
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They don’t accept that BK has been a successful HC for a long time.
First, BK's critics are not deranged. He had 31 years of HC experience when he came here. I guess that's part of the reason he was hired and given a 10Y contract. So he does not get the benefit of the doubt with rookie mistakes, e.g., train wreck on D in '23. How does a HC with that much experience do that? And we're "deranged" because we don't overlook it?
BK has demonstrated he does not know how to navigate an SEC schedule. He's demonstrated he doesn't know how to manage a roster in this era. His "long time" success" apparently means little now.
If I had one word to describe my fan experience at present it would be "trapped." Like him as HC or not, he's in all likelihood gonna be here at least two more years. Just seems like we're trapped.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:18 am to SammyTiger
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ignore the first 2 years which were pretty good
Thanks to Orgeron and his staff's talent evaluations
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:04 am to The Pirate King
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The 90's where Gerry Dinardo had a better record than BK in '96 and tied him in '97?
Gerry took over a pretty good roster.
The two situations are not the same.
That being said, 10 wins is the floor. We should be playing for championships, not this bowl.
I’ll say about BK what I said about Orgeron when he was hired after that 6-2 interim gig, I’m supporting him as long as LSU is improving overall.
I mean, in 2017 LSU lost to Troy at home. Despite that, the team was improving. Firing Orgeron then would have meant no Burrow, no Brady, and subsequently…no 2019.
LSU right now is in much better shape roster wise, coaching staff wise than when BK took over.
Despite being in this shite bowl, I don’t see that as debatable.
Im sticking with him (for now).
shite bowl this year or not…let’s ride.
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