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re: The CFP Committee is a clown show

Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by dornstar
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:40 pm to
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This isn't about justifying moving Ohio State down after this weekend. It should be about moving LSU up. If we beat the number 4 team in Atlanta who statistically is equal defensively to Ohio State; it should be enough validation to move us to #1.

Ranked wins are only a part of how the rank teams. You also have to look at how each team looked in those games. Ohio State beat their ranked teams by 28 points per game. LSU was 7. Against bowl eligible teams, Ohio State beat them by 34+ ppg. LSU was 22 ppg.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 9:44 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Kosmo, would you agree with cfp if LSU and osu win, osu remains 1?


Very much so.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:44 pm to
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The committee's final #1 team has always mirrored BCS right?


The top 4 have always matched, not the orders.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

just assumed LSU would be 1 because of the polls advantage.

I don't think the current bcs simulation uses the human polls, it's just the computer part of the calculations
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

I don't think the current bcs simulation uses the human polls, it's just the computer part of the calculations


No. The projection uses the AP and Coaches polls.

The BCS used Harris and Coaches, but the Harris is gone now.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24529 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:08 pm to
If what you say about BCS being .0009 difference is true, LSU will jump OSU in final ranking

Mathematically impossible not to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:12 pm to
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If what you say about BCS being .0009 difference is true, LSU will jump OSU in final ranking

Mathematically impossible not to


The computers are ranked ordinally and your score doesn't matter. LSU would have to overtake Ohio State's spot in one of them. 4 are pretty much locked in. 1 favors LSU, and 1 is close (Wolfe).

I dont know if Georgia moves the needles enough over Wisconsin in Wolfe.

For the AP and Coaches, will voters truly change their mind in who is #1 based on this final week?

Its possible, but not a lock.

Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24529 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:15 pm to
It’s more than possible, it’s probable

The committee would open itself up to too much unnecessary controversy, IMO
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:17 pm to
What?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16108 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:18 pm to
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narrow it down to just 13 people.


do you have any examples of where they have had the wrong teams in the CFP in any of the past years? So far they have been solid IMO, and don't have any reason to think they wont be solid this time as well.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:19 pm to
The order really matters this year because there are 3 clear great teams.

That's the difference.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16108 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

The order really matters this year because there are 3 clear great teams. That's the difference.


the order matters and as an LSU fan of course I would like to see LSU #1` facing Utah or Oklahoma instead of Clemson but Ohio St has a fairly solid case for being #1, but we could possibly move back to #1 with a solid win vs Georgia (if our defense looks good in that game as well). Also can't blame us LSU fans for wanting LSU to be ranked #1 and making a strong argument for it.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

the order matters and as an LSU fan of course I would like to see LSU #1` facing Utah or Oklahoma instead of Clemson but Ohio St has a fairly solid case for being #1, but we could possibly move back to #1 with a solid win vs Georgia (if our defense looks good in that game as well). Also can't blame us LSU fans for wanting LSU to be ranked #1 and making a strong argument for it.


Can't argue with that. Its rational.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16108 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:32 pm to
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That's the difference.

but is it really? I'm sure in past years the teams and their fans were arguing about the seedings as well, just that we are in that arguement this year
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

but is it really? I'm sure in past years the teams and their fans were arguing about the seedings as well, just that we are in that arguement this year


The only year with more than 1 undefeated was last year and Bama kinda got screwed playing Oklahoma (one loss) over undefeated (Notre Dame) but cest la vie.

I think this is the most clear 3 team demarcation and controversial 1-2 discussion in CFP history. By far.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72406 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:38 pm to
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Very much so.



WTH man?

Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72406 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:39 pm to
You scared to play Clemson as well I see.

Doesn't Clemson own yall?

Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80047 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

WTH man?


Ohio State would have wins over #8, #8, #10, #14 and #20.

LSU would have #4, #9, #11, and #12.

5 to 4, Ohio State

Also,

OSU = 28.25 ppg margin of victory
LSU = 7.3 ppg margin


In 8 games against bowl eligible teams...

OSU beat them by 273 points (34 ppg)
LSU beat them by 183 points (22 ppg)*
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