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So you saying 4 top 10 wins isn’t enough to be #1 but osu has 1 and they are a better team.

Yep... that's exactly what is being said.

You're looking at 4 games in a 13 game season and focusing on marginal differences in the rankings while completely overlooking at how those teams have actually looked on the field.

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right, the goal in part at least, is to get the 4 best teams and rank them in order. I could see a toss up between us and Ohio St as to being the best team. We would have the stronger SOS but they would have been more dominant


The SOS differences are marginal. Both faced 8 bowl eligible teams and both will have beat 4 ranked teams or so with minor differences in where they fell.

The margins in those games are not similar though. As was said...

OSU vs ranked = 28 ppg margin of victory
LSU vs ranked = 7 ppg

OSU vs bowl eligible = 34 ppg margin of victory
LSU vs bowl eligible = 22 ppg


Ultimately, you have to decide whether a minor differences in ranked wins is more valuable than how the teams actually looked on the field because as good as LSU looked... OSU has looked better and has done in it in seriously shitty weather conditions for basically most of the 2nd half of the season. If eye test and actually watching the games matters, it's not unreasonable that committee members would have OSU ahead.
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Using this matrix, OSU only has 1 win against a top 10 team in the final rankings (provided Penn State is there), while LSU has 4.

Ranked wins is only one part of the protocol. It's not everything.

re: LSU vs OSU 2007

Posted by dornstar on 12/3/19 at 9:44 pm to
This is not Jim Tressel's Ohio State filled with a bunch of Ohio kids.

This Buckeye team is loaded.... LINK


Also, Ohio State didn't really belong in the 2007 game. I was happy to get the bid, but we seriously backed into it moving from 7 to 1 in the final 2 weeks or so. Missouri and West Virginia losing in the final week was wild.
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This isn't about justifying moving Ohio State down after this weekend. It should be about moving LSU up. If we beat the number 4 team in Atlanta who statistically is equal defensively to Ohio State; it should be enough validation to move us to #1.

Ranked wins are only a part of how the rank teams. You also have to look at how each team looked in those games. Ohio State beat their ranked teams by 28 points per game. LSU was 7. Against bowl eligible teams, Ohio State beat them by 34+ ppg. LSU was 22 ppg.
It's not just the ranked teams that has Ohio State on top. It's how they looked in those games, the fact that OSU also played a 9 game conference schedule, they didn't play an FCS team, and both faced 8 bowl eligible teams.


Against those ranked teams....

OSU = 28.25 ppg margin of victory
LSU = 7.3


In those 8 games against bowl eligible teams...

OSU beat them by 273 points (34 ppg)
LSU beat them by 183 points (22 ppg)